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Re: The Downey Toxic He ll Hole
Posted by Deano on 9/07/08

    Sharon:

    First and foremost, my criticism of the “article” you linked is
    its low quality, evidenced by numerous typographical and
    grammatical errors, as well as unsupported conclusions. Add in
    the fact that the author is obviously at the far-left fringe
    (heck he even slams trade unions and California), and you have
    the makings of a piece with little credibility.

    Honestly, if you or any one else (double D, I’m dropping a hint
    here) wish to avoid looking like kooks, you really should vet
    your information sources with a bit more care.

    On 9/05/08, Sharon wrote:
    > Deano,
    >
    > Found it intersting and posted it. I DO know that there are
    > several people who are claiming illness from that site. I
    > thought it was very clever to refer to what they are
    > experiencing as "The Downey Syndrome".
    >
    > A couple of articles about it, linked from this article:
    > http://la.indy media.org/news/2008/08/219391.php
    >
    > Also, I don't think that it is true at all, that no one is
    > listening. "Illness and brownfields" is always a topic that
    has
    > many twists and turns because there is so much legislature
    that
    > it takes to turn a brownfield into a buildable site. This one
    > looks particularly complicated because you have a hospital on
    > the site and a major motion picture studio with workers
    > continually building sets, etc...as I understand it.
    >
    > As an example that some brownfields may not be as clean or
    safe
    > as one would want, below is info of another one out of the UK.
    > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3014336.stm
    >
    > Wonder what the percentage of brownfields is where there are
    no
    > reports of increased illness to those where there are reports.
    >
    > Sharon
    >
    >
    >
    > On 9/04/08, Deano wrote:
    >> This is essentially just a repeat of that joke of a radio
    >> interview you posted a few weeks ago. Fringe socialist
    >> whackos making a bunch of noise. But no one is listening.
    >>
    >> I could barely read any of his disjointed drivel, but this
    >> passage kind of leapt out at me:
    >>
    >> “In cases like sickness from mold and fungus, industrial
    >> hygienists are not qualified to make a serious
    >> epistemological investigation as to the causes of workers
    >> illnesses at these sites.”
    >>
    >> No kidding. Who, I wonder, is qualified to make
    >> an “epistemological investigation” with regards IAQ and mold?
    >>
    >> You really should find some information sources that are not
    >> quite so laughable.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 9/04/08, Sharon wrote:
    >>> The Downey Toxic He ll Hole: Injured Workers, Liability &
    >>> The Business Of Ste wart Licht ner
    >>> Bay Area Indy media - San Francisco,CA*
    >>> by Steve Zeltzer
    >>> Wednesday Sep 3rd, 2008
    >>>
    >>> http://www.indy bay. org/news items/2008/09/03/18532759. p
    >>> h p
    >>>
    >>> One of the first privatized government toxic dump site in
    >>> Downey,
    >>> California has now led to the serious injuries of hundreds
    >>> of movie
    >>> workers and Kaiser workers.


     
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