Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery
Posted by Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D on 6/29/09
On 6/29/09, Sharon wrote:
> Hi Dr. Thrasher. I AM doing my homework BY asking questions.
>
> So, am I understanding this correctly? Hooper's lab tests can detect
> the presence of macrocyclic mycotoxins in human fluids and tissues.
> They are not deesigned to detect the presence of monocyclic toxins such
> as T-2?
>
> I hope I am not butchering the scientific understanding too bad. I
> really want to get my head around this one.
>
> Sharon
>
> On 6/29/09, Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D wrote:
>> On 6/28/09, Sharon wrote:
>>> Pretty sure on the no T2. Dr. David Miller told me that it hasn't
>>> been found in building materials. If I remember correctly, I think
>>> Dr. David Straus did, too. Looks like that is what Dr. Thrasher is
>>> also saying. People get mixed up. All T2 are tricothecenes, but
>>> not all tricothecenes are T2. T2 were the tricothecenes that were
>>> weaponized. So, it is not technically correct to say the mycotoxins
>>> that were weaponized may be found in building materials. But it is
>>> correct to say that the toxins that are known to be produced by
>>> some molds that are found in buildings have been weaponized.
>>>
>>> So the question in my mind is Why, if these molds are known to be
>>> found in buildings and they are known to produce these T2 toxins,
>>> then why aren't these T2 toxins found in building materials? And
>>> what is so special about these T2 toxins that they were the ones
>>> chosen to be weaponized?
>>>
>>> If anyone knows the answer to this, its been bugging me for a long
>>> time and I have never been able to get a clear answer.
>>>
>>> On 6/28/09, Deano wrote:
>>>> On 6/28/09, Sharon wrote:
>>>>> I have never heard of warnings to not retaliate against
>>>>> employees. Is that a standard aspect for a state DOL document?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Also, I am not aware of anyone ever finding T-2 Toxin in
>>>>> building materials. Are you? Tricothecenes, yes. T-2, no.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea. Some time on PubMed should give you a
>>>> reasonable answer.
>>
>> There are basically two groups of trichothecenes. The monocyclic (T-2
>> toxins) and the macrocyclic (e.g satrattoxn, vomitoxin, etc.). Which
>> is present depends upon the genus and species of mold. Stachybotrys
>> chartarum produces macrocyclic trichothecenes and dollabanes.
>> Fusarium species were responsible for the T-2 Toxin that caused
>> illness and death of horses and Russian farmers. Hooper, Gray and I
>> have found macrocyclic trichothecenes in building materials.
>> Macrocyclics have also been reported by others We gave not found T-2
>> Toxin.
>>
>> As I suggested in my post on the Oak Ridge Elementary School, do you
>> homework before you ask questions. The answers are in articles on
>> pubmed and google. Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D. Sharon: Yes. Dr. Hooper's test detects macrocyclic trichothecenes as
well as aflatoxins (B1, M1, M2, etc.) and ochratoxins (A and others). He
used an antibody that to these mycotoxins, eludes them from a column that
contains the antibody to which they attach and then tests for the
presence. He has recently published a paper on his method. If anyone
should want a copy of his paper, they can email him at Real Time
Laboratories, Dallas, Texas. The tests does not detect T-2 toxins to my
knowledge. The T-2 Toxin test (you can look it up by doing a google
search) that Linda May is pushing tests for T-2 toxins in foods. It does
not detect macrocyclic and is only designed for testing foods. Jack
Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D.
>>>>
Posts on this thread, including this one
- State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/27/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/27/09, by sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/28/09, by Deano.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/28/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/28/09, by Deano.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/28/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Deano.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by sharon.
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