Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery
Posted by sharon on 6/29/09
"Sharon: Yes. Dr. Hooper's test detects macrocyclic trichothecenes as
well as aflatoxins (B1, M1, M2, etc.) and ochratoxins (A and others). He
used an antibody that to these mycotoxins, eludes them from a column that
contains the antibody to which they attach and then tests for the
presence. He has recently published a paper on his method. If anyone
should want a copy of his paper, they can email him at Real Time
Laboratories, Dallas, Texas. The tests does not detect T-2 toxins to my
knowledge. The T-2 Toxin test (you can look it up by doing a google
search) that Linda May is pushing tests for T-2 toxins in foods. It does
not detect macrocyclic and is only designed for testing foods. Jack
Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D." K. So in order to understand if a particular building was the exposure that
caused these particular mycotoxins to attach to antibodies in a
column...indicating they are present in one's body, would one need to know
the Species of mold that was present in the building?
Don't know if I am making it clear of what I am trying to understand. (I
can't even ask the question, let alone grasp the answer!)
I want to know why fusarium in buildings doesn't produce 2-T mycotoxins,
but weaponized fusarium does. And how do we know if the mycotoxins that
are found in people's bodies came from a moldy building? How do you
corrolate exposure with the blood work?
On 6/29/09, Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D wrote:
> On 6/29/09, Sharon wrote:
>> Hi Dr. Thrasher. I AM doing my homework BY asking questions.
>>
>> So, am I understanding this correctly? Hooper's lab tests can detect
>> the presence of macrocyclic mycotoxins in human fluids and tissues.
>> They are not deesigned to detect the presence of monocyclic toxins such
>> as T-2?
>>
>> I hope I am not butchering the scientific understanding too bad. I
>> really want to get my head around this one.
>>
>> Sharon
>>
>> On 6/29/09, Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D wrote:
>>> On 6/28/09, Sharon wrote:
>>>> Pretty sure on the no T2. Dr. David Miller told me that it hasn't
>>>> been found in building materials. If I remember correctly, I think
>>>> Dr. David Straus did, too. Looks like that is what Dr. Thrasher is
>>>> also saying. People get mixed up. All T2 are tricothecenes, but
>>>> not all tricothecenes are T2. T2 were the tricothecenes that were
>>>> weaponized. So, it is not technically correct to say the mycotoxins
>>>> that were weaponized may be found in building materials. But it is
>>>> correct to say that the toxins that are known to be produced by
>>>> some molds that are found in buildings have been weaponized.
>>>>
>>>> So the question in my mind is Why, if these molds are known to be
>>>> found in buildings and they are known to produce these T2 toxins,
>>>> then why aren't these T2 toxins found in building materials? And
>>>> what is so special about these T2 toxins that they were the ones
>>>> chosen to be weaponized?
>>>>
>>>> If anyone knows the answer to this, its been bugging me for a long
>>>> time and I have never been able to get a clear answer.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/28/09, Deano wrote:
>>>>> On 6/28/09, Sharon wrote:
>>>>>> I have never heard of warnings to not retaliate against
>>>>>> employees. Is that a standard aspect for a state DOL document?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I am not aware of anyone ever finding T-2 Toxin in
>>>>>> building materials. Are you? Tricothecenes, yes. T-2, no.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea. Some time on PubMed should give you a
>>>>> reasonable answer.
>>>
>>> There are basically two groups of trichothecenes. The monocyclic (T-2
>>> toxins) and the macrocyclic (e.g satrattoxn, vomitoxin, etc.). Which
>>> is present depends upon the genus and species of mold. Stachybotrys
>>> chartarum produces macrocyclic trichothecenes and dollabanes.
>>> Fusarium species were responsible for the T-2 Toxin that caused
>>> illness and death of horses and Russian farmers. Hooper, Gray and I
>>> have found macrocyclic trichothecenes in building materials.
>>> Macrocyclics have also been reported by others We gave not found T-2
>>> Toxin.
>>>
>>> As I suggested in my post on the Oak Ridge Elementary School, do you
>>> homework before you ask questions. The answers are in articles on
>>> pubmed and google. Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D.
>
> Sharon: Yes. Dr. Hooper's test detects macrocyclic trichothecenes as
> well as aflatoxins (B1, M1, M2, etc.) and ochratoxins (A and others). He
> used an antibody that to these mycotoxins, eludes them from a column that
> contains the antibody to which they attach and then tests for the
> presence. He has recently published a paper on his method. If anyone
> should want a copy of his paper, they can email him at Real Time
> Laboratories, Dallas, Texas. The tests does not detect T-2 toxins to my
> knowledge. The T-2 Toxin test (you can look it up by doing a google
> search) that Linda May is pushing tests for T-2 toxins in foods. It does
> not detect macrocyclic and is only designed for testing foods. Jack
> Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D.
>>>>>
Posts on this thread, including this one
- State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/27/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/27/09, by sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/28/09, by Deano.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/28/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/28/09, by Deano.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/28/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Deano.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Sharon.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Ph.D.
- Re: State Wades Into Oak Ridge Mold Mystery, 6/29/09, by sharon.
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