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    Re: Healthcare Reform

    Posted by Thomas Paine on 4/03/10

    Please use your common sense and Google, Yhaoo or BING the information - it is public domain and
    devilishly simple to secure.

    The first step to vigilance is knowledge. Popular opinion should never be confused with knowledge.

    Thomas Paine

    On 4/02/10, Sharon wrote:
    > Thomas,
    > Use your common sense. You posted some numbers. But you did not post the source of those
    > numbers, nor did you post information of the parent companies.
    > If you could stop with the personal attacks professing I am being obtuse, coy, disingenuous,
    > etc., it would be greatly appreciated.
    > From where did the source for those numbers you posted come? Could you post the link?
    > I am like JC on this one. A 3 percent profit margin for the insurance industry is not logical.
    > And so you know, I have minor in accounting. Not that this makes me a genius, but I do have a
    > fairly good head for how math works.
    > You do realize that AIG, who we bailed out with billions, is an insurance company, right?
    > You do realize that the trillions of tax dollars in the health bill is allocated to go to
    > insurance companies to pay for insurance policies, right?
    > If you could respond without making personal attacks, it would be greatly appreciated.
    > Can you show me the link of where you got those numbers?
    > Sharon
    > On 4/02/10, Thomas Paine wrote:
    >> So when reality clashes with your opinion, you alter the reality.
    >> Interesting
    >> Thomas Paine
    >> On 4/02/10, johncodie wrote:
    >>> On 4/02/10, Thomas Paine wrote:
    >>>> Whether you choose to believe it or not, the facts are the facts. Insurance companies are
    >>>> highly regulated. Their financial data is public domain. Simply seek and ye shall find.
    >>>> Thomas Paine
    >>> Another misinformed statement of facts. Of all the damning and breach of contract data
    >>> obtained from multiple companies acquired to the final paying entity; the only thing in the
    >>> settlment they gave a damn about was the $$$ settlement figure. So if it is not in court
    >>> documents and had to sign an agreement not to divulge that figure; only the controller and
    >>> the person who wrote the check, have knowlege. So if the insurance company is keeping the
    >>> payouts confidential; how does the public get to see the amounts? The state regulatory only
    >>> regulates the policy wording, and the suposedly reserves.
    >>> The numbers that you are quoting are the numbers that the companies are posting after all
    >>> their purported losses, expenses, etc. etc. Thats what is called doctoring the books, or
    >>> cooking the books, or to other schemes called stealing from the stock holders.
    >>> Net operating profit 3&37; mass ass. Ever wonder why accountants and CPA make a good living
    >>> with simple addition and subtraction? They are able to create the best portfolio of numbers
    >>> and accounts and the shifting of money. You may not be up far enough the food chain to see
    >>> the stratagies starting on the health care reform; but the day after the health care reform
    >>> law was signed there were statagiest working on new products to maxamize the bottom line.
    >>> It got published on the internet as 3&37;, and that makes it so! Right there next to it is
    >> my
    >>> dream home that I just won!

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