Re: Moldy Logic NAA Amicus 2009 & Blog 2010

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RemDud,

Do you even read what you are responding to before you write?

RD Quote:
The NAA’s position on mold is consistent with current research and
facts regarding mold exposure and does not embrace the junk
science associated with the black toxic mold hysteria. With
frivolous litigation a real danger for multifamily operators, it
is reassuring that the Chamber of Commerce document and many
others are finding their way into the courts.

"The NAA’s position on mold is consistent with current research and
facts regarding mold exposure and does not embrace the junk science
associated with the black toxic mold hysteria."

NAA May 21, 2010

"THE MOLD THAT WE DEAL WITH IN OUR INDUSTRY CAN POSE POTENTIALLY
HARMFUL EFFECTS TO RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES....REMEMBER, MOLD CAN CAUSE
MAJOR HEALTH PROBLEMS AND EVEN DEATH"

US Chamber July 17, 2003

"THUS THE NOTION THAT TOXIC MOLD IS AN INSIDIOUS SECRET KILLER AS SO
MANY TRIAL LAWYERS AND MEDIA WOULD CLAIM IS JUNK SCIENCE UNSUPPORTED
BY ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC STUDY"

NAA August 31, 2009

"A PANEL OF SCIENTISTS (who won't even claim they wrote the following
paper we are citing for the courts on their CV's)..FIND THAT YEARS OF
INTENSE STUDY HAVE FAILED TO PRODUCE ANY CAUSAL CONNECTION BETWEEN
EXPOSURE TO INDOOR MOLD AND ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS' US CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE, A SCIENTIFIC VIEW OF THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF MOLD (2003)"

RemDud May 22, 2010

"YEA THE NAA IS RIGHT WHEN THEY PUT IT INTO LEGAL DOCUMENTS FOR
JUDGE'S EYES THAT MOLD DOESN'T HARM TENANTS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY and
PUBLICLY TELLING THEIR MEMBERS IT CAN KILL THEIR TENANTS. DOH!"

It really is scary that you could be considered a professional
advisor in this issue.

On 5/22/10, Rem Dude wrote:
> The NAA’s position on mold is consistent with current research and
> facts regarding mold exposure and does not embrace the junk
> science associated with the black toxic mold hysteria. With
> frivolous litigation a real danger for multifamily operators, it
> is reassuring that the Chamber of Commerce document and many
> others are finding their way into the courts.
>
> It is time that the hysteria surrounding “black toxic mold” cease.
> It is also time for those pushing the black toxic mold agenda wake
> up and embrace the facts as well.
>
> Rem Dude
>
> On 5/22/10, Sharon wrote:
>> Rem Dude,
>>
>> Really? Then why is the NAA educating their members that mold
>> can harm tenants' health and sometimes even cause death..while
>> their attorneys are telling judges the EXACT opposite?
>>
>> The US Chamber paper claims that it is scientifically
> proven "the
>> notion that toxic mold is an insidious secret killer is a result
>> of trial lawyers, media and junk science". Not according to the
>> NAA's own blog as they are informing their members why it is
>> important to address asap.
>>
>> Can you cite to the scientific source reference for the
>> concluding above statement found in the US Chamber paper, "A
>> Scientific View of the Health Effects of Mold"?
>>
>> And if this is such a stellar substantive science paper, then
> why
>> do you think none of its named co-authors will even claim they
>> wrote it, in on their CV's?
>>
>> http://katysexposure.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/truth-out-sharon-
>> kramer-letter-to-andrew-saxon-mold-issue/
>>
>> It really is a bit scary that you give advice to people, both
>> occupants and owners/property mgrs, while professing to have
>> expertise in this area. Wonder how much money has been wasted
>> when prop mgrs have been forced to defend the lack of protection
>> for their occupants/bad faith because they relied on
>> your "professional" advice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/22/10, Rem Dude wrote:
>>> “A Scientific View of the Health Effects of Mold” is an
>>> excellent guidance document for property managers and those
>>> who have been frightened by black toxic mold hysteria. We
>>> constantly encounter clients who have become terrified of
>>> bathroom mold after reading web sites pontificating the
>>> lethality of all things moldy.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, the Chamber of Commerce and many other well
>>> respected organizations and researchers are getting the truth
>>> out regarding the true dangers of mold exposure.
>>>
>>> Rem Dude
>>>
>>> On 5/20/10, Deborah wrote:
>>>> They have seen the light...with much prodding, of course.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/19/10, Sharon Kramer wrote:
>>>>> August 31, 2009 NAA Amicus Curiae Brief submitted into a
>>>>> litigation as a purportedly substantive scientific
>>>>> reference for the courts to consider when denying insurer
>>>>> and NAA member responsibility for causation of new born
>>>>> infant deaths from mold:
>>>>>
>>>>> “In a report entitled, ‘A Scientific View of the Health
>>>>> Effects of Mold’, a panel of scientists, including
>>>>> toxicologists and industrial hygienists stated that years
>>>>> of intense study have failed to produce any causal
>>>>> connection between exposure to indoor mold and adverse
>>>>> health effects.’ U.S. Chamber of Commerce, A Scientific
>>>>> View of the Health Effects of Mold (2003)”
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> May 19, 2010 NAA Website:
>>>>> Mold: Your Silent Enemy -Blog
>>>>>
>>>>> "The mold that we deal with in our industry can pose
>>>>> potentially harmful effects to residents, employees and to
>>>>> your company’s bottom line"
>>>>>
>>>>> (Gee, wonder what else could cause problems with a
>>>>> company's bottom line....in a legal proceeding?)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.naahq.org/blog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?
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