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This doesn't sound like some who has an inate ability to read technical
journals, and explain it to you in laymen terms. It sounds more like an
another individual down on their luck, influenced to join a group for
help. She has obviously been forgotten and not helped.

Posted by jeanine moseley on 11/25/05 (Name appears as a supporter of the
position paper). Did she give her endorsement to use her name?

Sorry, the first 2 post,s I did wrong and lost my first
letter .
so before trying again, I desided to read several post,s.
I,m not sure weather to laugh or cry. and yes, my spelling
is not good and I have problems with consentration. my
spelling was not great before I spent almost 8 years living
in toxic mold,and yes,I call it toxic mold,and I noticed that
the word (toxic mold) was used when describeing the homes in
new orleans. and I can see why people like insurance
company,s do not want to give it that name, but anyone who
has lived in it and has illnesses from it well agree it is
toxic. mabye someone can try to convince me otherwise, but
please save your breath, I,m not in the mood to hear it. I
came here looking for help, I went from a strong, healthy
person , to one that is ill constantly, to one extent or
another. I have , M.C.S. ,fibromyalgia, double vision,
caterax in one eye (from vaculitis, I believe), stomach
problems including diearria with blood, allergies, sinusitis,
asthma,post stress syndrome. before I got out of the moldy
home, It hurt to be touched,I had severe back pain and could
hardly walk because of infections in my back, I had night
sweats, day sweats, twitching in arms and legs, numbness, I
had a itchy, burning rash on my back, neck, arms and head,
all my hair was falling out, I could hardly breath,I could
not see,I did see black spots on a mostly white blurred
canvas, I threw up several times a day, diearria with blood,
several times a day, my memory tottally shot, my ears swelled
shut, sores in and under nose, throat was raw, and I could
list a few more things. the first three years of livng
there, I would have these symptoms, tottally at radome,
usually for 3 days at a time, mabye a good day or 2, than it
would come back. and around the first few weeks of april,
when its rainy here, I,d fell better, some symptoms were
severe at the beginning, some got worse with time. you
inhale mold sposes when mold is dry and becomes airborne,
while mold is wet, it is growing and not putting out spores,
therefore you have some relief. homes with carpet are bad
because mold spores love carpet, hardwood floors well help,
air test well vary, and I believe are useless to a point, if
done while mold is wet they may not show any reading at all,
if dry and windy, you will get a better reading, and
depending on how your house is build and the sorse causeing
the mold, and the types of mold, you may not see it or smell
it untill it,s to late and the damage is done. and I had
never even heard of toxic mold until I found out it was in my
home. there is a point where your body stops fighting and I
believe thats when toxic mold takes over and sticks you with
illnesses that can kill you if you dont get out. I wont call
myself a expert, I have much to learn, but I believe that
people who live threw this (like any new found illness)
should have experts at theri door, wanting to dignose them
and they should be able to get help for free, instead, it
appears that any treatment, dignoses, or any experts in this
area, want to charge a arm and a leg.
I can say that toxic molds,( and/or the mycotoxins they
produce) has ruined my life. I can,t even seem to funtion
well enough to put the effort into this letter that I should
or could. I came here to try to find help, for proof for my
lawsuit no. 1, because I have lost everything and it was not
my doing. no.2 to hopefully find a specialest that well take
medicare and medicaid, because I haven,t been able to work,
and this whole mess has ate my saveing,s.
thanks to my first lawyer, who said he did toxic mold cases,
but didn,t have a clue, I,m not sure that the medical reports
that I have well even stand up in court.
and what I do have, was gotton on my own, while my attorney
was doing nothing. he admitted at his bar hearing that I
was very ill. but he was to lazy or uncareing to try to
find me help. I have now been out of the toxic mold, 3
years, and have moved 5 times trying to find a apartment that
I can somewhat funtion in. I funtion by advoidence, because
Im sick of being misdignosed, givin medicines that make me
sicker, being poked and treated like I,m crazy, which, I
thought I was, before getting out of the death house. for
all you non believers, how can you explain the fact that I
thought I had lost my mind while in the mold home, and have
improved , sence getting out of it.
how can you explain why, I never had any allergies before
living in toxic mold and am now allergic to many, many
things. how do you explain why I used to be so healthy and
now I am not. How do you explain the fact,s that everyone one
that has been exposed, has certain illness that are more or
less severe, depending on what molds they were exposed to,
how long they were exposed and how heavy the mold was. how
do you explain that all the information collected so far, by
the few specialest,s out there, show the same symptoms and
illnesses. yet these people, dont even know each other. I
challange all you nonbelievers to come live in my moldy house
for 8 years and see if that changes your mind.

On 8/11/10, Sharon wrote:
> No. The neighbor is a CA matter. I don't know where Jeanine lives.
>
> On 8/11/10, Deborah wrote:
>>
>> sounds a bit familiar, but there were so many, many. was she the one
>> with a neighbor who died from the exposure?
>>
>> On 8/10/10, Sharon wrote:
>>> I know Jeannie Mosley. She is a very smart, self taught woman. She
>>> reads a gazillion science papers and then has an uncanny aptitude
>>> to interpret them into plain language, common sense. I learn alot
>>> from her.
>>>
>>> On 8/10/10, Deborah wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Regardless of leaving ACHEMMIC, I am a staunch supporter of the
>>>> validity and integrity in science behind the POA paper. I
>>>> think that Deborah and others who have left ACHEMMIC are, too,
>>>> as far as I know." Sharon
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Sharon, you are correct. Mold-induced illness is real and it
>>>> makes one susceptible to many other pathogens, illnesses and
>>>> chemicals. The POA paper is very important, I wish it had been
>>>> out when this started for me. It was hard fighting against the
>>>> current while most were telling me I was either imagining things,
>>>> exaggerating or nuts.
>>>>
>>>> JC,
>>>>
>>>> Just when I find myself starting to agree with some of your
>>>> points, you derail somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know anything about Jeanine Moseley, but I hope that she
>>>> is doing okay.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/10/10, Sharon Kramer wrote:
>>>>> John Codie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Where on earth do you get this stuff? For such a skeptic, you
>>>>> are quite a conspiracy theory nut!
>>>>>
>>>>> None of the authors of that paper - which is put out by
>>>>> Policyholders Of America - is promoting false science. It is
>>>>> all well documented by scientific reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> CIRS from WDB is an illness that the Department of Labor
>>>>> awarded disability to an air traffic controller well over a
>>>>> year ago. It is all properly disclosed who does what in this
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> What you don't seem to understand is that in order to show
>>>>> conflict of interest, you have to be able to show:
>>>>>
>>>>> a. that someone published misleading scientific information
>>>>> b. that they did it for financial motivation.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not the case with this paper.
>>>>> http://www.policyholdersofamerica.org/doc/CIRS_PEER_REVIEWED_PAP
>>>>> ER.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as ACHEMMIC, I too left the org. I did this about a
>>>>> month ago. It was hampering my ability to speak out directly
>>>>> of the politics behind the deceit of the US Chamber et al.
>>>>> which definately qualifies under criteria a & b above for
>>>>> conflicts of interest causing the promotion of false science.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless of leaving ACHEMMIC, I am a staunch supporter of the
>>>>> validity and integrity in science behind the POA paper. I
>>>>> think that Deborah and others who have left ACHEMMIC are, too,
>>>>> as far as I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/10/10, JohnCodie wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/08/10, Deborah Daniels wrote:
>>>>>>> To Whom It May Concern:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was affiliated with the aforementioned group using my
>>>>>>> married name of Davitt. I have recently resigned from this
>>>>>>> group to which I contributed virtually nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wish to take the time to point out that there is a member
>>>>>>> on the board, one Lee Daniels, listed as a public health
>>>>>>> advocate, who is not a relative of mine or in any way
>>>>>>> connected to my family. I have no personal knowledge of
>>>>>>> this person or his/her activism in IAQ issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deborah Daniels Davitt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pulled up the membership list and found alot of wolfs in
>>>>>> sheep skins. Many ready and able to take up your cause for
>>>>>> a special fee. They got together to write their own
>>>>>> position paper; while claiming the US Navy has their own
>>>>>> mold remediation guidelines. Just more sheepskin to cover
>>>>>> the money blood hungry of wanting to obtain federal funding
>>>>>> for mold studies. The US Navy builds their primary
>>>>>> resicence out either steel, or fiber glass; wood products
>>>>>> providing fuel for harmful toxic fumes are not desired. The
>>>>>> most proficient manual for toxic removal is the acidic
>>>>>> cleaning of the toliets. So why would this group take a
>>>>>> Katrina handout provided to rescue workers for Katrina
>>>>>> clearly giving outdated references to the New York City
>>>>>> Guidelines and try to turn it into a Federal Mold Guideline
>>>>>> Document? So it would legitimize their position? I
>>>>>> champion and applaud your decision. I only wish Sharon
>>>>>> would likewise disassociate. The group is no more than a
>>>>>> Tea party soliciting for funds so support their gravy
>>>>>> train. What is a bandwagon without the hay, just a buch of
>>>>>> boobs, on public display. jc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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More | Report Post position paper). Did she give her endorsement to use her name? Sorry, the first 2 post,s I did wrong and lost my first letter . so before trying again, I desided to read several post,s. I,m not sure weather to laugh or cry. and yes, my spelling is not good and I have problems with consentration. my spelling was not great before I spent almost 8 years living in toxic mold,and yes,I call it toxic mold,and I noticed that the word (toxic mold) was used when describeing the homes in new orleans. and I can see why people like insurance company,s do not want to give it that name, but anyone who has lived in it and has illnesses from it well agree it is toxic. mabye someone can try to convince me otherwise, but please save your breath, I,m not in the mood to hear it. I came here looking for help, I went from a strong, healthy person , to one that is ill constantly, to one extent or another. I have , M.C.S. ,fibromyalgia, double vision, caterax in one eye (from vaculitis, I believe), stomach problems including diearria with blood, allergies, sinusitis, asthma,post stress syndrome. before I got out of the moldy home, It hurt to be touched,I had severe back pain and could hardly walk because of infections in my back, I had night sweats, day sweats, twitching in arms and legs, numbness, I had a itchy, burning rash on my back, neck, arms and head, all my hair was falling out, I could hardly breath,I could not see,I did see black spots on a mostly white blurred canvas, I threw up several times a day, diearria with blood, several times a day, my memory tottally shot, my ears swelled shut, sores in and under nose, throat was raw, and I could list a few more things. the first three years of livng there, I would have these symptoms, tottally at radome, usually for 3 days at a time, mabye a good day or 2, than it would come back. and around the first few weeks of april, when its rainy here, I,d fell better, some symptoms were severe at the beginning, some got worse with time. you inhale mold sposes when mold is dry and becomes airborne, while mold is wet, it is growing and not putting out spores, therefore you have some relief. homes with carpet are bad because mold spores love carpet, hardwood floors well help, air test well vary, and I believe are useless to a point, if done while mold is wet they may not show any reading at all, if dry and windy, you will get a better reading, and depending on how your house is build and the sorse causeing the mold, and the types of mold, you may not see it or smell it untill it,s to late and the damage is done. and I had never even heard of toxic mold until I found out it was in my home. there is a point where your body stops fighting and I believe thats when toxic mold takes over and sticks you with illnesses that can kill you if you dont get out. I wont call myself a expert, I have much to learn, but I believe that people who live threw this (like any new found illness) should have experts at theri door, wanting to dignose them and they should be able to get help for free, instead, it appears that any treatment, dignoses, or any experts in this area, want to charge a arm and a leg. I can say that toxic molds,( and/or the mycotoxins they produce) has ruined my life. I can,t even seem to funtion well enough to put the effort into this letter that I should or could. I came here to try to find help, for proof for my lawsuit no. 1, because I have lost everything and it was not my doing. no.2 to hopefully find a specialest that well take medicare and medicaid, because I haven,t been able to work, and this whole mess has ate my saveing,s. thanks to my first lawyer, who said he did toxic mold cases, but didn,t have a clue, I,m not sure that the medical reports that I have well even stand up in court. and what I do have, was gotton on my own, while my attorney was doing nothing. he admitted at his bar hearing that I was very ill. but he was to lazy or uncareing to try to find me help. I have now been out of the toxic mold, 3 years, and have moved 5 times trying to find a apartment that I can somewhat funtion in. I funtion by advoidence, because Im sick of being misdignosed, givin medicines that make me sicker, being poked and treated like I,m crazy, which, I thought I was, before getting out of the death house. for all you non believers, how can you explain the fact that I thought I had lost my mind while in the mold home, and have improved , sence getting out of it. how can you explain why, I never had any allergies before living in toxic mold and am now allergic to many, many things. how do you explain why I used to be so healthy and now I am not. How do you explain the fact,s that everyone one that has been exposed, has certain illness that are more or less severe, depending on what molds they were exposed to, how long they were exposed and how heavy the mold was. how do you explain that all the information collected so far, by the few specialest,s out there, show the same symptoms and illnesses. yet these people, dont even know each other. I challange all you nonbelievers to come live in my moldy house for 8 years and see if that changes your mind. On 8/11/10, Sharon wrote: rbrb No. The neighbor is a CA matter. I don't know where Jeanine lives. rbrb rbrb On 8/11/10, Deborah wrote: rbrbrbrb rbrbrbrb sounds a bit familiar, but there were so many, many. was she the one rbrbrbrb with a neighbor who died from the exposure? rbrbrbrb rbrbrbrb On 8/10/10, Sharon wrote: rbrbrbrbrbrb I know Jeannie Mosley. She is a very smart, self taught woman. She rbrbrbrbrbrb reads a gazillion science papers and then has an uncanny aptitude rbrbrbrbrbrb to interpret them into plain language, common sense. I learn alot rbrbrbrbrbrb from her. rbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrb On 8/10/10, Deborah wrote: rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb oxxoRegardless of leaving ACHEMMIC, I am a staunch supporter of the rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb validity and integrity in science behind the POA paper. I rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb think that Deborah and others who have left ACHEMMIC are, too, rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb as far as I know.oxxo Sharon rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Yes, Sharon, you are correct. Mold-induced illness is real and it rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb makes one susceptible to many other pathogens, illnesses and rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb chemicals. The POA paper is very important, I wish it had been rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb out when this started for me. It was hard fighting against the rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb current while most were telling me I was either imagining things, rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb exaggerating or nuts. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb JC, rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Just when I find myself starting to agree with some of your rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb points, you derail somewhere. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb I don't know anything about Jeanine Moseley, but I hope that she rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb is doing okay. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb On 8/10/10, Sharon Kramer wrote: rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb John Codie, rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Where on earth do you get this stuff? For such a skeptic, you rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb are quite a conspiracy theory nut! rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb None of the authors of that paper - which is put out by rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Policyholders Of America - is promoting false science. It is rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb all well documented by scientific reference. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb CIRS from WDB is an illness that the Department of Labor rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb awarded disability to an air traffic controller well over a rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb year ago. It is all properly disclosed who does what in this rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb issue. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb What you don't seem to understand is that in order to show rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb conflict of interest, you have to be able to show: rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb a. that someone published misleading scientific information rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb b. that they did it for financial motivation. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb That is not the case with this paper. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb http://www.policyholdersofamerica.org/doc/CIRS_PEER_REVIEWED_PAP rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb ER.pdf rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb As far as ACHEMMIC, I too left the org. I did this about a rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb month ago. It was hampering my ability to speak out directly rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb of the politics behind the deceit of the US Chamber et al. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb which definately qualifies under criteria a mpmp b above for rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb conflicts of interest causing the promotion of false science. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Regardless of leaving ACHEMMIC, I am a staunch supporter of the rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb validity and integrity in science behind the POA paper. I rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb think that Deborah and others who have left ACHEMMIC are, too, rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb as far as I know. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Sharon rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb On 8/10/10, JohnCodie wrote: rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb On 8/08/10, Deborah Daniels wrote: rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb To Whom It May Concern: rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb I was affiliated with the aforementioned group using my rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb married name of Davitt. I have recently resigned from this rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb group to which I contributed virtually nothing. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb I wish to take the time to point out that there is a member rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb on the board, one Lee Daniels, listed as a public health rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb advocate, who is not a relative of mine or in any way rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb connected to my family. I have no personal knowledge of rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb this person or his/her activism in IAQ issues. rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Sincerely, rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Deborah Daniels Davitt rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb I pulled up the membership list and found alot of wolfs in rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb sheep skins. Many ready and able to take up your cause for rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb a special fee. They got together to write their own rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb position paper; while claiming the US Navy has their own rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb mold remediation guidelines. Just more sheepskin to cover rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb the money blood hungry of wanting to obtain federal funding rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb for mold studies. The US Navy builds their primary rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb resicence out either steel, or fiber glass; wood products rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb providing fuel for harmful toxic fumes are not desired. The rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb most proficient manual for toxic removal is the acidic rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb cleaning of the toliets. So why would this group take a rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Katrina handout provided to rescue workers for Katrina rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb clearly giving outdated references to the New York City rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Guidelines and try to turn it into a Federal Mold Guideline rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Document? So it would legitimize their position? I rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb champion and applaud your decision. I only wish Sharon rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb would likewise disassociate. The group is no more than a rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb Tea party soliciting for funds so support their gravy rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb train. What is a bandwagon without the hay, just a buch of rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb boobs, on public display. jc rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb ">