Re: Pitch of US Chamber IT spies. Amazingly stupid!!
Posted by Deborah on 2/26/11
The turkey has (crash) landed.
On 2/22/11, Sharon Kramer wrote:
> Dear All,
> Since the US Chamber has played such a major role of adding
> politics, confusion and contention to the mold issue, I
> found it fascinating that an IT security company was
> pitching their DC lawyers, Hunton and Williams, to
> cyberstalk and character assassinate their adversaries.
> HGBary is located in Sacramento. They were going to be
> presenting at a big conference in SF this week how they had
> cracked who was Anonymous, that came to Wikileaks defense
> and hacked a bunch of computers. However, HGBary closed
> their booth and canceled their presentations. Below are
> just a few of the emails Anonymous hacked from
> the "security" company, HGBary that is headed by Aaron
> This belongs on the TV show "Cops" where they show antics
> of stupid criminals! This is right up there with the bank
> robber who got caught cuz he kept trying to push on the
> glass exit door to open it when he should have just pulled.
> One example:
> From: Aaron Barr
> To: Sam Kremin
> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:50:25 -0500
> Subject: Re: Requests
> date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:50:25 -0500
> subject: Re: Requests
> to: Sam Kremin
> Ok i am going to type this out and if you don't mind
> prettying this up. The Palantir load on my MacBook
> corrupted the system files so I need to
> reinstall when i get home. So trusty iPad has to do for now.
> In all cases the following tactics apply. Use existing
> voices meet your
> objectives. Profile not only the organizations but the
> existing opposition
> so you know how to most effectively use them. Create
> multiple actors to
> deliver against specific objectives. One person might be
> purely used to
> burn in the process of legitimizing another personna. There
> is no cookie
> cutter methodology. While certain methods can be used
> consistently, each
> campaign is different and how you apply tactics to achieve
> objectives needs
> to be tailored. Humor and ridicule always work better than
> dry facts. If
> you can deliver facts through humor or ridicule all the
> Uschamberwatch is very politically connected. Established
> by CtW and Andy
> Stern. Associated with many powerful behind the scenes dc
> operatives. They
> are not one to use theatrical performances or over
> jestures. The people in
> this case are less important than the organization. So need
> to discredit
> the organization.
> 1. Paint USChamberWatch as an operative of CtW and the
> unions. At the same
> time need to highlight the organization of the unions
> against the chamber.
> Show the flow of union members to CtW and the closeness of
> CtW and
> 2. Talk about the unions being an inhibitor to progress
> against the chambers
> focus of staying on top of a changing world. Forcing jobs
> to stay in the us
> and fighting for unrealistic individual benefits in a
> downed economy is
> hurting the US and employees which the chamber is working
> to ensure US
> businesses prosper in a global economy and fostering the
> creation of new
> jobs in the us through fostering innovation and
> technological advancement.
> Something like that. Packaged in the right mediums this
> could be powerful.
> 3. Might try creating a false document and see if they pick
> it up.
> Probably financial information for a period they have
> explicit evidence
> such tap transaction didn't occur. Create a fake insider
> personna and start
> communications with CtW. At the right point release the
> actual documents
> and paint this as an CtW contrived operation. They can't be
> trusted to
> stick to truth, etc.
> 4. Make the connection to velvet revolution and their
> radical tactics. That
> they are all loosely operating together. Depending on the
> level if
> connection we can make this may need to be more conspiracy
> based by a
> separate but very vocal personna.
> 5. If needed we may need t create two fake insider
> personnas using one to
> discredit the other giving the second immediate legitimacy.
> This is
> complicated and needs to be well thought out. You need a
> few different
> strategies fir this to work thinking through the vetting
> USChamberWatch will likely ask.
> 6. Create a humor piece about the leaders of CtW.
> Velvet revolution is a radical theatrical organization.
> They like the
> spotlight. In this case there are personalities and back
> office operatives.
> They are a grassroots organization with many ties to other
> groups. They run on limited funds and work on the fringes
> of the political
> process. Their job is to make noise and keep the argument
> alive in the
> 1. Attack kimberlin and after a series of attacks on his
> person start
> making ties to the back office folks like keese, gelt, and
> discrediting them by association. Done in the right way
> this can cause them
> to distance themselves and also funders from kimberlin.
> 2. Attack their antics as self-serving and childish.
> 3. It should be easy to create some information and get
> them to run with
> it. In this case since their are such vocal supporters and
> manipulate them both to further this course. This will take
> a few different
> persons to play the different groups. Need to classify
> their constituency
> and appropriate actions to illicit the right responses.
> Some basic thoughts. Problem with this is without a full
> analysis we are
> shooting from the hip without complete data and courses of
> action. I really
> am anxious of providing this to them for fear the will use
> it to judge our
> overall ability. Cart before the horse. Not sure if you
> want more direct
> associations with more enumerated individuals. I have some
> analysis but that should be a result of paid analysis.
> Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Sam Kremin
> Yeah, don't put a ton of effort into the mock report. I
> think just something
> as simple as what you've told me about the difference
> between velvet and
> uschamberwatch and really simply their pressure points
> would be more than
> enough. Regarding meeting with Bob, I hope that either
> tomorrow or more
> likely Wednesday we can meet. Once they respond to our
> labor cat submission,
> I'll see what they would be available for.
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Aaron Barr
>> Working on the resumes. On the report sure. We are
> finishing up our
>> drive today so I will get to it soonest. Basically what
> it will
>> entail is a link chart of key people in the distribution
>> information, background information on each individual
> and ways to
>> counteract their effect on group.. I don't have these
> unclassified so
>> I would have to cut from scratch and as I understood the
>> he didn't want us to put that level of effort into it?
> Thoughts? Are
>> we getting together with Bob this week?
>> From my iPhone
>> On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Sam Kremin
>>> I hope you are not worse for the wear after your trek
> to the midwest.
>> Today, like I said in the other Email, we'll be creating
> mock intel reports
>> to give to Hunton. Could you make up a mock report that
> you think would be
>> the most helpful for the lay people at Hunton to
> understand what you would
>> be doing? Also, could you send over the resumes of the
> people who will work
>> this project, so that we can include them with our
> resumes and the reports?
>>> Samuel Kremin
>>> Berico Technologies
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