Re: Mold Prevention coatings applied during new construction
Posted by John L. on 11/05/04
On 11/03/04, Robert wrote:
> On 11/03/04, Gilligan wrote:
>> On 11/02/04, Robert wrote:
>>> EPA registration is important only if you are actually applying a
>>> pesticide. The EPA regulates pesticides. Most of the mold
>>> prevention products do not contain pesticides. All the mold Killers
>>> contain pesticides.
>>> Paint products have all kinds of additives added to them and they do
>>> not require EPA approval. The new mold prevention products are under
>>> the same requirements. Those of you, who do not understand the
>>> guidelines of the Gov't and what they are for are mislead
>>> I have been a builder for years and understand water intrusions and
>>> mold. To prevent is better than to react.
>>> Several of the products on the market are designed to kill existing
>>> mold on the product surface. This is good, but they do not last
>>> (check the warranty claims) they also can be washed off by a water
>>> intrusion over time. (once again not good because mold needs moisture
>>> to grow).
>>> Once you actually check out the facts you all will see that you should
>>> prevent mold growth over the long term, see your states home owners
>>> warranty (most are 10 years and then some).
>>> Be very careful of fast talking salesmen that try to scare you away
>>> from products or into using product. These guys are no good. Check
>>> the facts warranties are very important, and it doesn't really matter
>>> what state the parent company resides in. If the manufacturer doesn't
>>> warrant the product then don't trust them. Chevy and Ford stand
>>> behind their products so do several companies out there.
>>> On 11/01/04, concerned wrote:
>>>> I looked up the St Jude Case. I was told the John Barry and Lenny
>>>> Abbott owned PCG. I did not see anything about either of them. I
>>>> have been approached by PCG to sell their product instead of the
>>>> Aegis product in Florida. Everyone at the CIA Group has been very
>>>> forward with their product and its ability to fight mold. I do
>>>> that EPA registration is important. Who else is protecting us?
>>>> PCG is nothing but an opportunistic fraud
>>>>> taking advantage of a vunerable Florida market. They mislead you
>>>>> by making illegal claims and getting their users in trouble for a
>>>>> quick buck, (see EPA treated Article Exemption PR notice
>>>>> www.epa.gov), their so called technology officer is named in a
>>>>> lawsuit involving St.Jude where he developed a product that - see
>>>>> for yourself, its sickening: (www.mnd.uscourts.gov/Tunheim) a
>>>>> cohort real estate scam artist with other lawsuits on file in
>>>>> kansas and indiana. BUYER BEWARE.
>>>>>It sounds to me like someone has a bit of product envy! I also
>> checked out your us courts website, and there was nothing there.
Aren’t we really asking ourselves “Is an Ounce of Prevention Worth the Cost
If so then the real question for homebuilders should be, “Is it worth it to
know that I have done everything possible to prevent a future outbreak of
mold in the homes that I build?”
“Is it worth it to potentially minimize my personal injury claims that might
be brought against me because of an unforeseen water intrusion event?”
Are you willing to make a nominal investment to enhance your current risk
Builders have successfully developed new building techniques and continually
improved upon the design, function, and efficiency of the homes we live in.
As these progressive builders improve upon the design and efficiency of our
homes they seem to be ignoring the fact that the building envelopes are so
tight that they no longer allow the home to breathe.
As our homes are built with tighter building envelopes we must now address
the question, “What happens to the moldy lumber once it is covered up by the
Wooden building members with mold on them have the potential to create health
related concerns after they are enclosed in wall and ceiling cavities, even
though the mold is dormant or inactive, high relative humidity or moisture
intrusion via a pipe leak or condensation can turn it into active mold
There are many excellent examples of risk management pretreatments. Applying
mold prevention practices to building members at the time of construction can
greatly reduce the risk of health and financial threats posed by mold and
Treatment of moldy building members prior to drywall greatly reduces the
potential for costly mold remediation and/or litigation should water
intrusion or high relative humidity cause mold growth.
Dealing with homeowner concerns about mold has become a significant issue for
builders as publicity increases consumer awareness and anxiety. The Pro-
Active Builders are addressing these concerns prior to "close-in," that is,
before sheetrock and finishing components are added.
Today, a select number of builders are taking certain steps to minimize their
mold liability risk. These builders are using new building envelope designs
that improve interior moister control and are using building materials that
don’t support mold growth. Additionally, these builders are using microbial
pretreatment on all vulnerable surfaces that could support mold growth under
the right conditions. The cost of treatment, which ever it may be, far out
weighs the risk associated with a future mold liability law suite.
I was asked to look over this chat board. Read what some have said about the
pretreatment services available.
I am happy with what I have read in most part, but agree that it would appear
the site is being used to direct sales and not raise awareness of the
developing options available to builders in response to the overwhelming
onslaught of mold litigation.
I hope we can all agree that we are in a position to improve the builders
position while providing an improved indoor environment for the home buyer.