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    Re: Mold coating

    Posted by WRONG on 11/29/06

    Bill Cook makes a lot of claims that he has "THE" antimicrobial
    product and that it is EPA registered and that it is patented and
    safe. I have researched his claims and have documented the
    following:

    -BioSafe, not bill cook have two patents on the use of a known
    antimicrobial. What good is either of these patents since they
    require the use of someone else's product.

    -BioSafe claims to have a antimicrobial coating that contains EPA
    registered antimicrobial. The antimicrobial that they claim is
    Aegis 64881-1, -2, -3. This antimicrobial is owned by Aegis
    Environmental not bill cook or biosafe.

    -Biosafe and bill cook make illegal claims that violate several
    FIFRA regulations. A coating that contains EPA registered
    antimicrobials can only make claims to protect the surface of the
    coating, not the object that it is applied to, only to surface of
    the coating.

    -The Aegis products that Bill Cook and BioSafe are claiming are not
    EPA registered to Kill anything. Verify by calling Aegis or looking
    on the aegis web site at www.microbeshield.com. The Aegis product
    is registered to prevent and inhibit ONLY, not killOn 10/26/06, No
    Dope wrote:
    > Chris - Thanks for raising this question. I am a builder in North
    > Carolina and I cannot tell you how many times a mold dude (as we
    > call them) comes by to hawk some new product. When we ask for EPA
    > registrations, they dance from one foot to another and hem and haw
    > about they donít need no stinking registration. We politely tell
    > them that our insurer, lender, and mold inspector sure as hell
    > does need the stinking registrations. We then bet on how quickly
    > they can leave our construction site without hitting something.
    >
    > If you confront these guys, they quickly realize you are not some
    > dope and find the door most ricky-tick. Mold prevention chemicals
    > must be EPA registered no matter what stories you are told. Donít
    > be a dope...
    >
    >
    >
    > On 10/22/06, Chris wrote:
    >> Henry - Thanks for the info. Since my post, I contacted a
    >> pesticide consultant and he explained the exact same thing - If
    >> a registered antimicrobial chemical is added to a sealer, then
    >> the performance claim can only apply to the sealer in the can
    >> and not to the surfaces the sealer is applied. Any product
    >> making a mold prevention claim must be registered. The treated
    >> article exemption cannot be legally twisted to avoid
    >> registration.
    >>
    >> As you recommended, I will reported the company to our
    >> department of agriculture and see what happens next. I am tired
    >> of being lied to by these companies. If they want to sell
    >> antimicrobial products, then have them registered. I am
    >> certainly not going to jeopardize my companyís reputation or
    >> face potential legal expenses because some sales rep tells me
    >> their product doesnít need EPA registration. I might be a little
    >> slow, but Iím not stupid.
    >>
    >> Chris
    >>
    >> On 10/21/06, Henry Z wrote:
    >>>> The product as a whole does not need to be registered.
    >>>
    >>> The above is a common and very expensive mistake made by
    >>> companies selling surface protection products that contain an
    >>> EPA registered antimicrobial from another company. If a product
    >>> makes claims beyond protecting the product it has been
    >>> incorporated into then YES it does have to be registered with
    >>> the EPA.
    >>>
    >>> In other words, an EPA registed antimicrobial can be added to
    >>> paint with the claim that it helps protect the paint but it
    >>> cannot make the claim that it protects the surface from
    >>> contamination unless the entire product is registered.
    >>>
    >>> Do the EPA a favor and give them everything you have on the
    >>> company that contacted you.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> On 10/19/06, R Duso wrote:
    >>>> Chris,
    >>>>
    >>>> EPA registration,
    >>>>
    >>>> It is necessary for all individual products in the
    >>>> formulation to be registered.
    >>>>
    >>>> The product as a whole does not need to be registered.
    >>>>
    >>>> Dick D.

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