Re: Welcome to the TOXLAW.com Class Actions Chatboard ff
Posted by ff on 6/27/04
Mary:
To be clear, I'm not from Louisiana, just lived there for a couple of years and
traveled to there for many. Prior to that, it was 1680 when any of our family
left VA for LA, for a short stay before joining up in FL.
It does have a uniqueness. Is former LA Gov. Edwin Edwards still alive? If so,
he could help locally with succession. His involvement would be necessary in
shedding the liability, otherwise you guys up there would simpy be establishing
one element of plaintiffs' fraud claim (you knew the waste was toxic to the
environment, to the residents, and you kicked them out of the US to avoid
liability..)
ff
On 6/27/04, Mary wrote:
> Hey ff:
>
> I've been meaning to ask you, is that Louisiana place you talk about some kind
> of real state or something? By the sound of it maybe we should spin the whole
> place off as a new country and shed the liability. he he he...
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mary
>
> On 6/27/04, ff wrote:
>>
>> Hey Hardy,
>>
>> Mary's from up north somewhere, somewhere north of Shreveport. Life in the
>> exploited bayou areas would do her good, you know, even Lake Charles - the
>> birthplace of the petrochemical industry. My guess is, she'd gain a new
>> perspective on toxic exposures just from visiting a place like Morgan City -
>> the place where refuse and toxic waste from up north floats on barges for
>> years. It's cheaper to tow it from NY to MC (and deny ownership) than to
>> pay the costs for proper disposal.
>>
>> Crawfish - have they been studied as environmental indicators? Considerable
>> research out of LSU has need devoted to gators. The bright side is,
>> whatever they're loaded with, there good enough to overcome any worries.
>>
>> (Mary, there really is a Bayou Blue down there, in LaFourche Parish, but
>> it's hardly blue. It is well recognized that the primary means of disposal
>> is to dump it in the bayou. Pollute at will. Hey johncodie, whatever
>> happened to the DeLisle dioxin/water injection - thought there was a huge
>> class action suit. Was it kicked out, preempted by federal law becasue EPA
>> permitted the injection of the waste water into ground water?)
>>
>> Finally, Linda Fisher (EPA) found a home?
>>
>> ff
>>
>> On 6/26/04, mary wrote:
>>> Hello Hardy:
>>>
>>> Well, I sure ain't the rule maker, but, the context is toxlaw.com. I would
>>> think there is plenty to talk about in that context. Maybe you could share
>>> your thoughts on the recent IBM outcomes for example. Just my thinking.
>>> Ranting later...
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> On 6/26/04, IS THIS FORUM FOR TOX.TORT CLASS ACTION DISCUSSION ONLY?
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Toxlaw Freinds,
>>>>
>>>> This Class Action forum is nice! However, I wonder if it is intended
>>>> to be only about Toxic Tort Class Actions. There are many other types of
>>>> Class Actions other than Toxic Tort actions. I filed one recently
>>>> against the State of Louisiana for return of millions of dollars that I
>>>> think have been collected illegally when Louisiana sheriffs make a
>>>> defendant pay money to the state just to bond out of jail. Of course,
>>>> that is in additon to the bond posted by the defendant. Also, the state
>>>> gets a percentage of the money paid a bailbondsman for a bailbond; and
>>>> this money is divvided up among the judges who set the amount of the
>>>> bailbond (so that the higher that the bonds are set, the more money the
>>>> judges get), the D.A., the Public Defender and the sheriff. I say that
>>>> that Tax on the Bill of Rights is unconstitutional, and that all the
>>>> money that has been collected according to that unconstitional Louisiana
>>>> law has to be refunded. What do you think about all of this?
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Hary Parkerson, Atty.
>>>> Lake Charles, LA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/23/04, mary wrote:
>>>>> Hello Hardy:
>>>>>
>>>>> My beef is with the ABUSE of class action litigation. I also think
>>>>> there is a proper time and place for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in any event, I hope you will post here often and share your
>>>>> thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/22/04, Hardy Parkerson, Atty. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Mary,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Power to you! Have at it! Maybe some day the class action will
>>>>>> be done away with. Then each man and woman in a mass disaster
>>>>>> situation like happens in Calcasieu Parish, Louisiana, from time to
>>>>>> time (lately rather frequently) will just have to file his or her
>>>>>> own individual lawsuit; and there will be upwards of ten thousand or
>>>>>> more such lawsuits filed following just one such mass-disaster toxic-
>>>>>> tort accident and chemical release. Best of luck to you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hardy Parkerson, Atty.
>>>>>> Class Action Lawyer (among other things)
>>>>>> Lake Charles, LA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/22/04, Mary wrote:
>>>>>>> Hardy:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was referring to the post, not any specific actions. And yes, I
>>>>>>> do have a problem with class action abuse. This is known by most
>>>>>>> regulars who hang around here. I rant on about class action abuse
>>>>>>> frequently and with gusto. The word 'greedy' is used from time to
>>>>>>> time. Understanding the limitations of that approach I also
>>>>>>> communicate more objectively with elected officials, and with like
>>>>>>> minded professionals, in an effort to change a system that permits
>>>>>>> this abuse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>
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