Re: Class Action Defamation Suit against Barret/Fumento/Mill

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More properly put, "v", if the credentials are bogus, then you have a
fraud. And frauds are worse than ninnies. The Dr. Ann Campbells of
this world, who wrote on the anti-MCS propaganda machine's techniques,
can explicate. In as much, there is the matter of contrived credentials
which come from groups that are no more than 501c societies that require
zero medical licensing to join. And those non-official groups
ever-so-coincidentally form names for themselves that make them
deceptively sound as if they are official government agencies.
Concerning this topic, one of the prime players presents himself as Dr.
Stephen Barrett, "MD". It makes him sound like a practiing physician
who derives his writings from the experience of dozens upon dozens of
patients. Well, "Dr. Stephen Barrett MD" has not practiced any
physiological medicine since his intership days, ending in 1957. That
is a 48 year drought. Furthermore, he was never board certified at
anything a single day in his life, concerning any medical or psychiatric
discipline. This information, and similar things, concerning the
anti-MCS propaganda machine are posted throughout the internet. All in
all, if you have to have a false front window, then you are obviously
trying to be the guardian of a lie.

On 3/03/05, v wrote:
> ff: In the old days they were called snake oil salesman. I'm sure
> there are some out there of which you speak. I think crdentials help
> in these circumstances. Altho, what good are credentials if they are
> a ninkompoop!
>
>
> On 3/03/05, ff wrote:
>>
>>
>> Patrick:
>>
>> I'm not sure about the firm and issue you raise, but it seems
>> related to a question I have wondered about. Hypothetically
>> speaking:
>>
>> If, by some sufficient means, it was learned that a group of
>> professionals, doctors for example,profited by "creating"
>> scientific studies and or testimony which they knew were really
>> not scientifically valid, for a profit, and these invalid
>> resources became useful in denying medical claims and essentially
>> diseases, thereby causing the victim to continue to siffer and the
>> condition to worsen, are the creators of the junk science in some
>> way responsible for those affected?
>>
>> I guess, creating junk science for a profit with the intent or
>> knowledge that people could suffer if the junk science and/or
>> testimony were applied/used against those suffereing may be an
>> easier way to express this.
>>
>> I could imagine someone approaching a scientist and asking them to
>> develop a study that could be used to support the desired outcome
>> that product X did not cause symtoms 1,2,3..., and, regardless of
>> whether or not X did cause the problem. I guess, starting out
>> with a desired conclusion, and them manipulating a research
>> project to supported the desired conclusion?
>>
>> ff
>>
>> On 3/02/05, JD wrote:
>>> At last! What a relief. Cowgirl Mary is both "speachless"
>> and
>>> "speechless"... Double the pleasure!
>>>
>>> JD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/01/05, mary wrote:
>>>> See? And Speechless too...
>>>>
>>>> On 3/01/05, mary wrote:
>>>>> Wow...... I'm speachless....
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/28/05, Patrick wrote:
>>>>>> Question: Which law firm can find the legal foundation upon
>>>>>> which to file a class action defamation suit against the
>>>>>> duly noted Barrett/Fumento/Milloy/Gots/Stossel and company
>>>>>> propaganda machine? Such a lawsuit would be on behalf of
>>>>>> every Chemical Sensitivity sufferer in the States, including
>>>>>> those Chemical Sensitivity sufferers formally diagnosed with
>>>>>> the following titles:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1a] Occupational Asthma due to low-molecular weight agents.
>>>>>> 1b] Irritant-induced Asthma.
>>>>>> 2] Chemical Worker's Lung.
>>>>>> 3] External Allergic Alveolitis, aka Hypersensitivity
>>>>>> Pneumonitis "due to chemical sensitization."
>>>>>> 4] Reactive Airway Dysfunction Syndrome.
>>>>>> 5] World Trade Center Cough.
>>>>>> 6] Sick Building Syndrome; a diagnostic title which is
>>>>>> even recognized in the Merck Manual.
>>>>>> 7] Stevens-Johnson Syndrome.
>>>>>> 8] Acute Generalized Exanthematous Pustulosi.
>>>>>> 9a] Chronic Actinic Dermatitis.
>>>>>> 9b] Occupational Dermatitis.
>>>>>> 10] Phthalic Anhydride Hypersensitivity.
>>>>>> 11] And of course, the Multiple Chemical Sensitivity which
>>>>>> is now recognized by name, by the following
>>>>>> licensed & accredited entities, in each one's
>>>>>> Occupatonal & Environmental Medicine Programs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I] Johns Hopkins.
>>>>>> II] Mt. Sinai Hospital.
>>>>>> III] Yale.
>>>>>> IV] Cambridge Hospital (affiliate of Harvard Med. School.)
>>>>>> V] Northeast Specialty Hospital (also Harvard affiliate.)
>>>>>> VI] University of Medicine & Dentistry of New Jersey.
>>>>>> VII] HealthPartners-Regions Hospital, Minneapolis
>>>>>> (affiliate of the NIOSH Educational Resource Ctr.)
>>>>>> VIII] Central New York Health Occupational Clinical Center.
>>>>>> IX] Marshall University.
>>>>>> X+] a number of board certified and licensed physicians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus, there is the technologically advanced nation of
>>>>>> Germany which coded MCS as "an allergic condition."
>>>>>> And there are also a notable number of licensed entities
>>>>>> which recognize the titles:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Indoor Air Quality Assessment", "Building-related Illness",
>>>>>> "Sick Building Syndrome", "Environmentally-related
>>>>>> Diseases", "Chronic Chemical Exposure", "Chemically-induced
>>>>>> Illness", "Occupationally-induced Illness", etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And this includes the world renown Duke, as well as Iowa
>>>>>> Univ., Boston Medical Ctr., the Univ. of Maryland, and the
>>>>>> Univ. of Pittsburgh (home of the polio vaccine and first
>>>>>> liver transplant.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, there is the matter of including CFS sufferers
>>>>>> and GWS sufferers. Of course, GWS sufferers have apparently
>>>>>> suffered the most defamation of all the Chemical Sensitivity
>>>>>> sufferers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps, and only perhaps, a subset of patients who were
>>>>>> diagnosed with the following 'medically accepted' diagnostic
>>>>>> titles can be included:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1] Chemically-induced Hepatitis, 2] Chemically-induced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aplastic Anemia (Bone Marrow Suppression).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The subset, of course, would consist in those who suffered
>>>>>> lingering sensitivity beyond the acute stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such a lawsuit would not be against any licensed practicing
>>>>>> physician, it seems. After all, Barret was never board
>>>>>> certified at anything in his life, and he never praticed
>>>>>> "physical" medicine since his internship days, ending in
>>>>>> 1957. Gots hadn't had a patient in decades, so say the
>>>>>> reports. As well, neither Fumento nor Stossel nor Milloy
>>>>>> have ever been doctors in any medical discipline. And of
>>>>>> course, the only non-licensed (or non-Doctorate-bearing)
>>>>>> person qualified to give sound & valid evidence into the MCS
>>>>>> matter is one who has suffered from the physiological
>>>>>> medical condition for years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor would such a lawsuit be against the pharmaceutical
>>>>>> industry, unless of course, discovery would should that the
>>>>>> pharmaceutical industry funded any of the defamatory
>>>>>> propagandists for producing the defamatory things which they
>>>>>> did. That would be a subsequent filing and joinder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Barret/Fumento/Milloy/Stossel & company propaganda
>>>>>> machine employed slight-of-hand semantics & convenient
>>>>>> evidence omission in asserting to the inexperienced public
>>>>>> that Chemical Sensitivity is entirely a process of mental
>>>>>> illness, instead of a physiological process accompanied with
>>>>>> the following physiological medical findings:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1] Inflammation Scenarios, such as Turbinate Hypertrophy
>>>>>> & Interstitial Inflammation.
>>>>>> 2] Failing the Arterial Blood Gases Test.
>>>>>> 3] Dermatitis scenarios and similar.
>>>>>> 4] Enzyme QPon-1 Deficiency.
>>>>>> 5] Erythema, even internally.
>>>>>> 6] Over Production of Leukotrienes, such as LTD4.
>>>>>> 7] The Production of N-acetyl-benzoquinoneimine in
>>>>>> excess of the Mercapturate which neutralizes it.
>>>>>> 8] Elevations of Alanine Aminotransferase,
>>>>>> aka Serum Glutamic Pyruvic Transaminase.
>>>>>> 9] Hyperactive Conjugations and Deficient Conjugations.
>>>>>> 10] Visible and Measurable Wheals during Skin Testing.
>>>>>> etc., etc., etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there is the matter P-300 Waves, IgA immunoglobins,
>>>>>> T-Cells, porphyira, and the observable and non-deniable
>>>>>> symptom of Profuse Dry Heaving, as well as that of
>>>>>> Blacking-Out. All in all, the smoking gun was the Fiber
>>>>>> Optic Rhinolaryngoscopic Exam and the medical findings
>> thereof.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The defamatory propaganda resulted in the deprivation of
>>>>>> research funding. Furthermore, how many ignorant persons in
>>>>>> America believed the conclusions of Barret/Stossel/Fumento
>>>>>> and refused to accomodate a chemical sensitivity sufferer in
>>>>>> a time of crisis? How much suffering has that propaganda
>>>>>> machine caused? In as much, all Chemical Sensitivity
>>>>>> sufferers have suffered triply:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1] at the hands of the illness,
>>>>>> 2] at the hands of a ruthless form of defamation,
>>>>>> 3] at the hands of abandonment for years, due to
>>>>>> little research funding and outrightly lazy physicians
>>>>>> who make lots of money upon one nitch repetitively,
>>>>>> steamlining their practices to a comfortable laziness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At this point in time, the plaintiff-class of Chemical
>>>>>> Sensitivity Sufferers would have mainstream medicine on it's
>>>>>> side. After all, the AMA, AAAAI, and American Lung
>>>>>> Association all recognize Chemical Sensitivity as it applies
>>>>>> to the ASTHMA symptom. And the AAAAI & AMA recognize it as
>>>>>> it applies to Dermatitis, Aspririn/Salicylate Senstivity,
>>>>>> Ramin Wood Allergy, Acetaminophen Intolerance, Red Cedar
>>>>>> Allergy, Peruvian Lily Allergy, Isocyanate Sensitivity,
>>>>>> Phthalic Anhydride Hypersensitivty, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Moreover, the AMA, AAAAI, & ALA all advocate the practice of
>>>>>> AVOIDANCE as a necessary part of treatment for the
>>>>>> chemically sensitive, as it applies to asthmatics. Their
>>>>>> official literature enumerates the same chemical-bearing
>>>>>> agents that MCS patients has been avoiding for years, out of
>>>>>> instinct. And remember, Barrett condemned the practice of
>>>>>> AVOIDANCE as detrimental, while Fumento called the practice
>>>>>> "nonsense." Thus is the proof that Barrett is the real
>>>>>> quack, speaking contrary to the AMA & AAAAI. (Fumento is
>>>>>> simply a pushy-shovey brat who needs to be put his place, as
>>>>>> all bully-brats picking on helpless people need to be.)
>>>>>> Furthermore, comdemning the practice of AVOIDANCE, while
>>>>>> asserting that Chemical Sensitivity patients must be placed
>>>>>> in direct encounter with the triggers that torment them, is
>>>>>> the act of inciting a crime known in some jurisdictions as
>>>>>> TOXIC BATTERY. Thus, Fumento and Barret have publicly
>>>>>> advocated the committing of crimes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Proof that the AMA, AAAI, & ALA recognize Chemical
>>>>>> Sensitivity, at least as it applies to the ASTHMA symptom,
>>>>>> can be found at the following mainstream medical sites:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AMA Report 4 of the Council of Scientific Affairs (A-98),
>>>>>> found at http://ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/13603.html
>>>>>> The other ones are found at:
>>>>>> http://bdapps/ama-assn/org/aps/asthma/manage.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://aaaai.org/patients/publications/publicedmat/tips/
>>> asthmatriggersandmgmt.stm
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.lungusa.org/site/apps/s/content.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=
>>> 34706&ct=67442
>>>>>> http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec04/ch044a/html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The propaganda mahcine fraudulently went about, claiming
>>>>>> that the AMA & AAAAI condemned MCS as non-existent. This is
>>>>>> a lie. The AMA & AAAAI merely declined to recognize the
>>>>>> specific title, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, as a
>>>>>> case-specific diagnostic title of its own medical code.
>>>>>> This is because MCS is too vague and non-case-specific of a
>>>>>> name. The AMA & AAAAI merely said that more research was
>>>>>> needed to be done, in order them to encapsulate MCS into a
>>>>>> meticulously defined and analysed "case definition". And
>>>>>> though they did not recognize Multiple Chemical Sensitivity
>>>>>> by name, they still recognized the phenomenon of Sensitivity
>>>>>> of Chemicals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mainstreams Medical Science has long since recognized the
>>>>>> process of "sensitization." And it has long since
>>>>>> recognized the phenomenon of hypersensitivity to
>>>>>> chemical-bearing agents when encountered by susceptible
>>>>>> persons, at commonly encounter levels (at low to moderate
>>>>>> levels).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The MCS debate has been game of semantics. The anti-MCS
>>>>>> lobby went beyond the sound barriers of obsecenity. All
>>>>>> contributing members must be held accountable.