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    Re: Re:fungicides and EPA investigation

    Posted by johncodie on 7/03/03


    I will give the people that post on this board, and other boards a chance to
    identify, other places that they post. These post tend to inflame, but it can be
    indicative of the persons character. Better not to say it and have it repeated if
    it was not factual, or intended to be said in the first place. One of my gifts as
    being an engineer for these many of years, has been the ability to remember alot of
    details, from 20 to 25 years back. But when you are interpreting me as speculating
    these stories, they are to be qualified as news articles published by a news paper,
    and reviewed by the editor prior to publishing. You know as well as I do, that
    investigative reporters seldom identify their sources, and like you state,
    frequently get the facts messed up. Thats one reason that I don't generaly like to
    always give the specifics to where I got the information, because there are often
    people that read the post were actually witnesses to the event. I will go back and
    find the article and be more specific. We know the cornor had to determine the
    child cause of death, and since it was determined to be poisioned the epa was
    ebviuously called in, to file a report. This goes back to dosage, or dosage over
    time. Now I understand why you can't divulge the informtion, that you know about;
    but if you have found a way to "find the facts" without putting a gun to the persons
    head, or drugged, or tortured the individual; you need to let us know how it is
    accomplished. I find that most individuals want to tell the truth, and be a part of
    the solution, but are most times fearful of the reprecussions. You can clear alot
    of rocks up until you have been bitten a couple of times, before you realize
    creatures that can harm seek refuge there, and it goes better, but slower if you
    prod with a stick before offering a limb. I prefer hickory, whats your preference.

    On 7/03/03, ff wrote:
    > johncodie:
    > Regarding the fungicide poisoning incident as mentioned by you, just out of
    > curiosity what was the chemcial? I do find it disturbing that once again you
    > wander into speculation, that people supppress their failuresand the "farmer" may
    > have left the chemical out for ingestion. You may well be right, but if we want
    > get somewhere in our lifetime, cut it out, get the facts. Why waste energy and
    > falsely accuse others? Maybe youu were watering plants in your house and left the
    > house on in the attic too soon? Maybe you suppressed a failure, you could have
    > the tub overflow anddi not want to absorb the cost? You see, the speculation cuts
    > in when it is speculation, about you specifically, how does it feel?b
    > One additional note on EPA investiagtions of ag chemcials, EPA registers these
    > chemcials as safe if used according to the label. On the regulatory side, if a
    > problem occurs, they have the tendency to assume someone did something wrong as
    > opposed to EPA having made a mistake by allowing registration.
    > ff

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