Re: Re:fungicides and EPA investigation
Posted by ff on 7/04/03
What are you talking about? You run so mnay different and unrelated events together, and
them try to implicate or point fingers, for issues you try to create but do not exist.
I'll match my henesty and integrity to anyone's, especially yours. As for the bashing, you
started it with something that you still do not understand, or for some reason, will not
A good example of your hysteria, paranoia, and inaccuraccy is again exhibited below. But
more importantly, so what. I told you all along to talk to Sally, or to call me, or Dr.
Shoemaker. Instead you hide behind your computer, cowardly, and regurtiate your
imagination. It is a waste of time, I can see now, to try and communicate with you on a
legitimate basis. A few comments follow, but you need to go back and look at your faults,
errors, paranoia, and hysteria. Now you whine about the balancing approach to oyu intited
On 7/04/03, johncodie wrote:
> On 7/03/03, ff wrote:
>> As far as the Sally/shoemaker/VCS/ff subjects, all you had to do was ask, I gave you
>> the numbers via email, you can call me anytime, in fact, how about no more speculation
>> until you do that? I am still standing in my own issue, with the agencies and others,
>> because I have been truthful and forthcoming. It;s no big deal jihncodie, stop hiding
>> behind the computer!
> It's not speculation. On 6/28 Sally stated "My first test was performed in FF's home.
> This was under the VCS why doubt it thread.
SO WHAT? DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HERE?
> On a seperate board that I posted Sally gives her account of VCS, Dr. Shoemaker, and his
> treatment. "I went to the mans house in Florida and took the test an he faxed the
> results to Dr. Shomaker." On 6/27/03 My post Beating a dead horse trying to make it
> drink the complete posting of sally is provided.
AGAIN, SO WHAT? I KEEP TELLING YOU THAT YOU OBTAIN LIMITED FACTS, AND BECAUSE THEY ARE
LIMITED, AND COMBINED WITH YOUR HYSTERIA OR OCD AS IT APPLIES TO THE LIVES OF OTHERS, YOU
REACH FALSE CONCLUSIONS. POSSIBLY THIS IS A METHOS IN YOUR SELF APPOINTED ROLE AS BOARD
BOSS, INVESTIGATOR, SCIENTISTS, AND REGULATOR, BUT IF SO IT IS A VERY POOR METHOD. YOU,
FOR SOME REASON, ARE TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING. WHY?
> Earlier post to the board you indicated that you knew of Sally and was not sure if she
> was state or federal toxic investigator. Later post both indicated that an attending
> physicain was involved in the treatment.
> "I am still standing in my own issue, with the agencies and others,
>> because I have been truthful and forthcoming."
> Now Frank, I might mistake a pesticide for a fungacide, and you and Mary have bashed me
> for day's on end.
YOU MAKE A LOT MORE MISTAKES THAN THIS, AND YOU APPARENTLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY
MEAN. THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENC BETWEEN A RESTRICTED USE PESTICIDE AND A GENERAL USE
FUNGICIDE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE STORY YOU GAVE IMPLICATED A FARMER FOR THE DEATH OF CHILD.
FUNGICIDES ARE FOR TREATING FUNGI, MOLD YOU KNOW, MICROBES, LIKE THE STUFF YOU CLIAM MADE
YOU ILL IN YOUR HOME (BECAUSE YOU LET THE TUB UPSTAIRS OVERFLOW, OR LEFT THE HOSE ON TOO
LONG - THIS IS THE KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESS YOU GO THROUGH, ESSENTIALLY FABRICATION, DO YOU
> Why is it so hard for you to to admit that Sally took the VCS in your home, and you two
> faxed the results to Dr. Shoemaker. Why did you say you have knowledge of her, when you
> have opened up your home to this individual.
I TOLD YOU IF YOU WANT INFO ON SALLY, TO CALL SALLY. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU TO
UNDERSTAND THIS, AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND PLEASE, WHY IN GOD'S NAME DO YOU THINK IT IS ANY OF
YOUR BUSINESS? AGAIN, YOU HAVE MISCONSTRUED THE FACTS, MISREPRESENTED STATEMENTS MADE (GO
BACK AND RE-READ), EASY FOR YOU TO DO BECAUSE YOU DO NOT DEAL WITH FACTS.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT ADMITTING ANYTHING, EXCEPT FOR YOU, I'M WORRIED ABOUT YOU. YOU HAVE
A PROBLEM IN THAT YOU AGAIN,...STILL..HAVE APPOINTED YOURSELF AS SOME AUTHORITY (CLASSIC
CASE OF A FAMOUS PRICIPLE ON INCOMPETENCEY?). POSSIBLY YOU'RE DANGEROUS TO OTHERS WITH
YOUR INCESSANT AND OBSESSIVE STYLE?
> Why do these agencies and others have such control over what ever problem there is in
> florida? We both know individuals don't manufacture or test pesticides.
AGAIN...STILL...WHAT IN THE HECK ARE YOU RAMBLIMG ABOUT?WHICH AGENCY? WHICH ISSUE? I KEEP
TELLING YOU THAT YOU HAVE RUN SEPARATE EVENTS AND FRAGMENTED INFO TOGETHER, PART OF YOUR
PROBLEM. DID YOU READ THE ARTICLES ON SUPPRESSION BIAS? DID YOU READ THE SENTINEL ARTICLE
YESTERDAY ON MOLD AND COMMON SENSE? IT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE EFFECTS OF SUPPRESSION
IN A HUOROUS, BUT NOT SO HUMOROUS WAY, YOU YOURSELF, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, ARE LIKELY UNAWARE
OF HOW MANY PRODUCTS/CHEMCIALS YOU HAVE SERVED AS A TEST SUBJECT FOR, BUT TO ADDRESS YOUR
STATEMENT, CORPORATION DO UTILIZE INDIVIDUALY (KNOWINGLY) FOR TESTING, LOOOK IT UP IN
FIFRA, THEY ARE CALLED EUP (EXPERIMENTAL USE PERMIT) COOPERATORS.
> How about no more bashing an individual trying to tie a common VCS testing together,
> until they are truthful and forthcoming.
WHAT IS YOUR INTEREST HEAR? TRYING TO CONJOUR UP ANOTHER LAWSUIT? HAVE SOME LEGAL INTEREST
IN SALLY, DR. SHOEMAKER, OR MYSELF? UPSET BECAUSE AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE YOU HAVE
COMMUNICATED WITH FOUND AN EFFECTIVE TREATMENT AND YOU WERE LEFT OUT? WHAT'S YOUR GAME
HERE? I DON'T REALLY EXPECT AN ANSWER, I EXPECT YOU TO COMEBACK WITH MORE BS, SPECULATION,
AND INVALID CONLCUSIONS WHICH YOU APPARENTLY HAVE A KNACK FOR.
YOU STOP THE ABSURD AND CONTINUOUS MISTATEMENT OF FACT, SPECULATION, STOP BASHING ME (YOU
INITIATED IT), STOP PLAYING AGENCY/REGULATOR/INVESTIGATOR WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY OVER YOUR
HEAD, AND I WILL NO LONGER HAVE TO REPLY. TRY IT!
FINALLY, IF YOU WANT INFORMATION, CALL ME, EMAIL ME, BUT DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN HIDING
BEHIND AN ALIAS CRAMMED INTO YOUR COMPUTER. I'LL CALL IT GUTLESS, ANTAGONISTIC,
SUSPICIOUS, CREEPY, WHATEVER. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE DOWN SOUTH COUNTRY EXPRESSION "HE
AINT RIGHT" ?
NOW, IF YOU WANT TO SPEND THE REST OF YOUR LOIFE GOING ON LIKE THIS, THEN BY ALL MEANS HAVE
AT IT, IT'S YOUR CALL.
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