Re: Re:fungicides/EPA ,etc,etc, Hey Mary
Posted by ff on 7/18/03
You are still pretty far off from anything I have tried to convey. I appreciate Mr. Moultous' effort, and
regret his family's health problems, but somehow, if you want to make a change, letters like Mr. Moultous
need to be recognized as potentially damaging to his effort rather than beneficial (I have written a few
myself). I propose that a beneficial effort should be focused on those entities responsible for suppression
bias. Then, legitimate entities are presented accurate information rather than unknowingly, having already
formed invalid opinions, formed as a result of suppression bias. We will not live long enough to make
accomplishments by APPEARING as a whinining, nagging, entity to others that don't want to hear it in the
On 7/18/03, johncodie wrote:
> My first introduction to Ken Moultous on the sickbuilding board yahoo was veiwing a hospital bed that was
> in his home for his son. Ken had to move back to Oklahoma to have a place to live after suffering all the
> years of inactivity. At first the assumptions are wow what a whiner, or this guy must be a mental case.
> But after a few years and realization that nursing homes are abusing our loved ones by neglect and finally
> pass laws to protect. The unfortunate families that provide hospital home care for a loved one has little
> to no laws to protect the quality of air, or housing for their most desperate citizens. While bed ridden
> they are protected by the same Constitutional Rights of every other able bodied man and woman.
> Bias starts with the individual and extends across state lines. As a ragging range fire threating
> thousands of families across our nation, legislation is being passed to study the effects of fire on
> dewelling. To much time is being lost in the time period. We need updated building codes,and laws for
> TEXAS flood victims now; Minimum moisture readings within a building over a time period before it has to
> be ripped open and remediated. The days of it will dry, and paint stain block over it and path it are over.
> Mr. Moultous
> From: KENHMOULTON@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:03:15 EDT
> Subject: For the hearing on SB657
> To: ROleary@senate.state.ma.us, KBinck@senate.state.ma.us
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> For the hearing on SB657 (please forward to the committee) -
> July 17, 2003
> I was unable to attend the hearing on SB657, Toxic Mold bill by Rob O'Leary, on July 16, 2003 at the State
> House. My family and I are sick and recovering from the severe and unhealthy effects from the Toxic Mold
> that was in our home in Centerville.
> My Wife, Virginia, recently had to have eye surgery. It seems her eyes are infected from the Toxic Mold and
> it caused a tumor to grow. While you listen to feel good legislation, Virginia almost lost her sight.
> Remember our Toxic Mold is the direct result of the documented, in Government Public Records you have all
> seen, illegal acts and failures of Massachusetts and the Town of Barnstable.
> A little over a year ago we spoke before your Committee about the Toxic Mold bill we had written and
> proposed. I listened to your speeches in front of the television cameras after the hearing in which you
> described what needed to be changed to make my legislation acceptable.
> I made the changes you stated in your television interview and resubmitted it to you as a replacement. It
> was then that you showed, by your total failure to act, that your television statements were a ruse.
> The bill by State Senator Rob O'Leary is a do nothing piece of legislation that will harm rather than help
> in the fight against Toxic Mold. It will allow, you, the State to stall. Anybody that has been infected by
> Toxic Mold does not need another biased study to be done. We need action. NOW!
> We need responsible politicians to help us. Sadly, after an exhausting search over the past decade, I have
> found self-serving politicians who grandstand on issues and ignore people. You speak of your sadness and
> concerns before the media and then do NOTHING!
> My family, like many others, lived in Toxic Mold for some years before we knew we had it. If it had been in
> our workplace perhaps we could have found another job but we were not so lucky. It was where we lived, ate
> and slept. It infected all of us. According to Medical, Insurance and Toxic Mold reports, our Toxic Mold is
> a direct result of the combined corruption and failures of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and the Town
> of Barnstable,
> Even before I knew of the Toxic Mold I came to Beacon Hill and the state for help to fight the government
> corruption of the local and state building inspectors that knowingly allowed this to happen to us. I
> contacted every Governor and AG since 1993. All protected the corrupt and the corruption rather than the
> citizens. All of the investigating Massachusetts agencies; Inspector General, Banking, Auditor, Treasurer
> and others, turned a deaf ear to corruption.
> You, the Legislature went so far as to pass a bill, without discussion or record of votes, to grant
> immunity to any corrupt inspectors that broke the law. This was done to stop my efforts to have
> accountability. By doing this, you, the legislature emboldened more open and widespread corruption. You
> allowed the expansion and growth of Toxic Mold. You must bear the responsibility for many of the illnesses
> we face from the Toxic Mold.
> The State Health Department and DEP have refused my requests for them to inspect our Toxic Mold. These are
> two groups that you now want to lead the study of Toxic Mold. In my opinion, they wouldn't know it was
> daylight unless they held a study or read it somewhere.
> The state building standards, another group you want to lead the study, is headed by Tom Rogers. As I told
> you all over a year ago, he was ruled by the State as not qualified to be a building inspector but he still
> holds his job. I also told you he even refused to provide reports requested in a hand delivered memo from
> the AG for reports of inspector and builder corruption he had inspected. The investigation was closed. A
> few years ago he even failed to respond to requests from the Legislature.
> I also told you and showed you State Public Records that he said our home was unsafe and illegal due to the
> illegal acts of the town and state but he refused to write a report as the law and his job required. Have
> you ever bothered to question him on these violations of State Law? Why has he not been fired?
> This is wonderful Massachusetts and what you say passes for Government sounds more like a third world
> country where corruption is the rule rather than the exception. If you want to support O'Leary's bill, feel
> free to. It is a waste of time that helps nobody. It allows those that have been asked to investigate in
> the past to play a farce in your "new" effort of politics.
> I call them like I see them and I call this a sucker piece of feel good legislation, that helps nobody ill
> from Toxic Mold. The SD2070 that I submitted is the legislation I refined to satisfy your objections that
> you expressed last year. It does what you wanted so why are you holding it prisoner? The answer is your
> television comments were public relations rather than the truth.
> Ken Moulton
> P O Box 874
> Hyannisport, MA 02647
> E-mail: email@example.com
> On 7/15/03, johncodie wrote:
>> On 7/15/03, ff wrote:
>>> You are so far off from anything I have tried to convey to you. If you want to extract the truth,
>>> change your methods? Personally, and respectfully mr. johncodie, I am not going to waste any more time
>>> or space while you weave in and out of various issues and events, short of the information you need to
>>> reach valid conclusions.
>> Personally, I have been awakened to the unsuspecting, apathetic
>> public, really getting what they deserve (or to put it a better way, what they do not earn by failing
>> to keep up with their civic duty, unless hit personally, they don't get involved).
>> Im sorry I don't feel the same way. If you live in Boston and you don't fit in with the Kennedy bias
>> then your not going to win. Talk with Ken Moltous, he left Barnstable MA to go back to Oklahoma to
>> survive. He is writting legislation that is getting buried in Study. He did not did deserve the
>> nonsupport to the State Officials there. I just don't think the lack of education, or fear should keep
>> thehard earning taxpayers, from getting their dollars worth. It, "insurance/mortgage finance" and
>> disclosure has been termed "legal stealing". Now that is an oxy-moron.
>> If we don't have any protected rights, then why did everyone waste thier time celebrating the 4th this
>> year? Since morals don't involve religon, it might not go around to everyone; the worst sin is being
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