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    Re: the anonymous johncodie

    Posted by ff on 6/25/03

    Mr. Weatherman:

    I was pleased to see on the board, someone that was working with Dr.
    Shoemaker. I have spent countless hours discussing health related
    issues with Dr. Shoemaker. I've never recieved a bill, and think it is
    safe to say, if he is rich, and I hope he is, he did not get there by
    trying to help people.

    I gave johncodie the telephone number for Dr. Shoemaker, but doubt that
    he called, it's not his style. He had rather whine and immerse himself
    in the board, than to get off his verbal _ _ _ and do something, at
    least in my opinion. If he did call, I doubt he used the name
    johncodie. You know, I don't have any idea who this guy really is, do
    you? For all I know he could be Elliot, Mary, CJ, Tricho, and others
    all wrapped into one?

    You know, I feel that litigants have an obligation to mediate the
    damages, to find help, solutions if they can, rather than to prolong
    their troubles in a quest for sympathy and recognition by incessant
    posting and criticism of all.


    On 6/25/03, Greg Weatherman wrote:
    > John Codie,
    > I have no finacial gain or interest with Dr. Shoemaker's practice.
    > I need to know when customers are highly sensitive to mold. This
    > greatly effects my remediation plans. I can't tell someone that
    > soft, porous items may make them sick through re-exposure. That
    > could be called "practicing medicine without a license".
    > Did you go to the revolving lounge at the top of the Double Tree
    > hotel down the street from me. What a view! Don't drink the water.
    > BTW John, you have not hit a nerve. I made a polite (or at least I
    > thought so) attempt to clear some misunderstandings.
    > I used to refer customers to other doctors in the area. I had one
    > customer who was told she is crazy. She could barely balance her
    > checkbook after extreme exposure to a very moldy townhouse that was
    > gutted on all 3 floors due to 2 different plumbing leaks that were
    > hidden. I have seen ill-informed docs and this doc is now somewhat
    > involved with a major lawsuit in this area right now.
    > Solving problems often requires a team approach and Dr. Shoemaker
    > provides me the opportunity to perform better service.
    > Also, charging $8.95 for a test is hardly a "get rich quick
    > scheme". Health insurance companies have billed patients big bills
    > for single use plastic tubes of vaseline (Sam Donaldson ABC 20/20).
    > I think an ugly joke may have a beginning with this fact.........
    > Can you show me any specialist MD who charges as little as Dr.
    > Shoemaker does? He hourly rate is cheaper than an automechanic.
    > Regards,
    > Greg Weatherman
    > Aerobiological Solutions Inc.
    > Arlington VA 22202
    > ************************************************
    > On 6/25/03, johncodie wrote:
    >> I am very familiar with your area and the politics on the beltway.
    >> I usually stay at the Crystal City Double Tree. I have to admit it
    >> is a very sound and close knit business adventure that everyone has
    >> joined into referreals. The business must be doing very well.
    >> Confused, I don't think so! You see if I take this little test,
    >> and am confused about the results, then I can hit the additinonal
    >> key and enter my credit card numbers so I can talk with Dr.
    >> Shoemaker over a test that has already had its disclaimer posted at
    >> the bottom of the page. I am not suprized that I hit on some
    >> nerves. What would you specifically get for that additional
    >> hundred dollar fee, that the was based upon a test that has already
    >> been disclaimered. Last time I got an MRI and paid about as much
    >> through insurance, I got result, but did not get the disclaimer.
    >> Greg what is the disclaimer you pointed out supposed to mean?
    >> Oh I get it, the truth gets in the way of good business sometimes.
    >> On 6/25/03, Greg Weatherman wrote:
    >>> John Codie,
    >>> I know you mean well but, you seem very confused to me. I am in
    >>> Arlington VA. I have a company seperate from Dr. Shoemaker. Dr.
    >>> Shoemaker is 4 hours east of me in Pocomoke MD. He is literally
    >>> next to the Atlantic Ocean. He has worked with patients in the
    >>> past with "attending physicians". This means he works with local
    >>> doctors to give a differential diagnosis (together). This is a
    >>> very common practice born from the fact that medicine is complex
    >>> and two doctors can combat malpractice help the patient better
    >>> than one. Also, he does not tell a patient that he needs
    >>> $10,000.00 payment and exclusivity before diagnosis and eventual
    >>> treatment. I won't name names but, There is a notable doctor
    >>> doing this practice. It is legal but it raises the
    >>> question, "How does the average nonrich person get quality
    >>> healthcare"?
    >>> Ken Hudnell, PhD Neurotoxicologist with the EPA, has worked with
    >>> the VCS technology for years. He and others study human health
    >>> with regards to neurotoxicity from industrial chemicals like
    >>> organics and heavy metals. This type of research helps the EPA
    >>> evaluate the harm that may be posed by the realese of toxic
    >>> chemicals to the environment.
    >>> Although it is the HHS that oversees human health, The EPA bases
    >>> its decisions on human, wildlife and plant toxicity. They are
    >>> charged with this responsibility by Congress.
    >>> Ken Hudnell has worked with dry cleaning chemicals and their
    >>> health effects to the nervous system. Biotoxins - whether they
    >>> are mycotoxins are other biologically derived toxins - are very
    >>> similar in chemical composition to the industrial organic
    >>> solvents like chemicals used for dry claning. Ken Hudnell
    >>> decided to do some research on the side with Dr. Shoemaker
    >>> because they both think there is a reason for these unexplained
    >>> and untreated illness and discomforts. The science is solid.
    >>> These groups you speak about are funded by special interest or
    >>> (if they are indeed pure and follow science) act like slow moving
    >>> ships when turning. They are waiting on the National Academy of
    >>> Sciences or other body of experts to give the research
    >>> the "golden stamp of approval".
    >>> Maybe Phares Heindl can tell us about the dangers of being
    >>> a "standard setting organization" with respect to litigation that
    >>> originated with the National Pool and Spa Association and
    >>> personal injury lawsuits.
    >>> Although your questions are good, life is far more complex as
    >>> your engineer background should verify.
    >>> Regards,
    >>> Greg Weatherman
    >>> Aerobiological Solutions Inc.
    >>> Arlington VA 22202
    >>> *******************************************************

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