Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness
Posted by Mike B. on 1/19/09
On 1/18/09, ErikMoldWarrior wrote: > I concur with Cat Budak's statments. > > The concept of "CFS" has been grossly abused and misused by many opportunists since the syndrome was created. > Dr Shoemaker disregarded all the static and confusion, and went straight to the soucrce, to find out exactly what "CFS" was > created to describe. > And that is why Dr Shoemaker is more effective and has a greater understanding of the illness which was named "CFS" than any > other doctor in the world. > > -ErikMoldWarrior > Prototype for CFS > Some recent findings by a federal court that ripped Shoemaker a new one: Because he was unable to complete any part of his REP, Dr. Shoemaker claims that merely by diagnosing plaintiffs with “mold illness,” he has established evidence of causation. He asserts that because the research model for his case definition was proven in his most recently-published study, causation is established. And “once established, causation does not have to be re-invented for each repeat case.” (Pls.' Ex. 14 ¶ 109.) This assertion is entirely without merit. In actuality, the results from his third paper merely support “the general hypothesis that SBS [Sick-Building Syndrome] is associated with exposure to WDBs [water-damaged buildings].” Shoemaker, Sick Building Syndrome and Exposure to Water Damaged Buildings, supra, at 583. In other words, Dr. Shoemaker himself reports that it confirms a “ general hypothesis” (one that finds no support outside of Dr. Shoemaker's research group), not proof of specific causation for every future patient. Indeed, as *141 pointed out by defendants' expert immunologist, Dr. Shoemaker's assertion that he need not determine causation for future patients is contrary to accepted medical principles. (Defs.' Ex. 19 ¶ 30 (“for each new case, one must evaluate each patient on a case-by-case basis ... to determine the most likely diagnosis and ultimately causes for that disease process”).) Given that Dr. Shoemaker arrives at his opinions as to both general and specific causation based on novel and unaccepted theories and methodologies, plaintiffs cannot sustain their burden under Daubert as to causation.
V. NATURE AND EXTENT OF PLAINTIFFS' INJURIES
Because the Court finds “mold illness” to be an unaccepted diagnosis, any testimony as to the nature or extent of plaintiffs' injuries relating to that illness is necessarily unsupported by reliable scientific evidence. Dr. Shoemaker himself admits that without any knowledge of how each plaintiff would respond to treatment, he cannot offer an opinion as to the permanency of their symptoms. (Defs.' Ex. 9 at 36:11-19 (“I can't give permanency in this case, because she hasn't even taken the first intervention that can correct this illness.”).) And similarly, he cannot say which of plaintiffs' symptoms were caused by exposure to the damp environment of the apartment. (Tr. at 193:24-194:5.) Therefore, based on Dr. Shoemaker's own admissions, his testimony in these areas would be nothing other than speculation. CONCLUSION For the foregoing reasons, defendants' motion to exclude the opinion testimony of plaintiffs' expert, Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, is GRANTED.
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- shoemaker, 10/08/03, by sacliff@msn.com.
- Re: shoemaker, 10/09/03, by ff.
- Re: shoemaker, 10/11/03, by sherrie.
- Re: shoemaker, 10/12/03, by ff.
- Re: sherri eseeking info, 10/12/03, by ff.
- Re: sherri eseeking info, 10/15/03, by sherrie.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 12/01/03, by Terry Elias.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/29/04, by Nancy Bramson.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/10/04, by Teresa Greene.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/13/04, by Karen Parisis.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/29/04, by IanChristopher.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/29/04, by IanChristopher.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 4/02/04, by Gloria Horsley.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 4/02/04, by SD Teacher.
- Re: sherri eseeking info, 4/12/04, by sherrie.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/03/05, by john biles.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/04/05, by Greg Weatherman.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/06/05, by Kay Bowers.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/07/05, by curious.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/25/05, by Eric.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/25/05, by Greg Weatherman.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/29/05, by Eric.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/29/05, by Eric.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/29/05, by Eric.
- Re: ERIC, 1/30/05, by ff.
- Re: ERIC, 1/30/05, by ff.
- Re: shoemaker, 1/31/05, by Jyl Burgener.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/01/05, by Eric.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/02/05, by ff.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/24/05, by suzanne mccavanagh.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/24/05, by suzanne mccavanagh.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/29/05, by Janice.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker - wow, i'm stunned, 3/30/05, by mary.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker - wow, i'm stunned, 3/30/05, by Greg Weatherman.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker - wow, i'm stunned, 3/30/05, by mary.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/30/05, by v.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 5/12/05, by Andrea.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 5/22/05, by ZXR90.
- Re: shoemaker, 8/01/05, by Jim.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 8/05/05, by Linda Lee Johnson.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 8/05/05, by Linda Lee Johnson.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 9/14/05, by vivian.
- Re: shoemaker, 9/14/05, by vivian.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 10/08/05, by ANN.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 10/08/05, by ANN.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 10/10/05, by terry.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 11/27/05, by Marty Clarke.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 12/20/05, by Kurt D. Winterkorn.
- Re: Dr. Wintercorn, 12/21/05, by ff.
- Re: Dr. Shoemaker/Mr. Winterkorn, 12/21/05, by Tammy.
- Re: Dr. Wintercorn, 12/21/05, by v.
- Re: Re:Tammy/Mrs. Winterkorn, 12/23/05, by ff.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 12/23/05, by TMV.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 12/23/05, by A Griffith.
- Re: Re:Tammy/Mrs. Winterkorn, 12/23/05, by Greg Weatherman.
- Re: FF, 1/11/06, by DD.
- Re: FF, 2/28/06, by Sue.
- Re: FF, 2/28/06, by Sue.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/21/06, by Pat Romanosky.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 5/06/06, by Holly.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 7/02/06, by ed cohen.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 7/02/06, by ed cohen.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 9/11/06, by ANDREE Tanner.
- Re: shoemaker, 11/27/06, by Craig.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 11/29/06, by NOT AMUSED.
- Re: shoemaker, 12/16/06, by Kay.
- Re: shoemaker, 12/29/06, by AmerAcadMed1.
- Re: shoemaker, 3/13/07, by Claire.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/13/07, by Claire.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/14/07, by Fanua SP. (SCUPS-Student).
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 4/13/07, by Cindy Fulghum.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker--BAD EXPERIENCE WITH DR. SHOEMAKER, 5/01/07, by Virginia.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker--BAD EXPERIENCE WITH DR. SHOEMAKER, 5/01/07, by Virginia.
- Re: shoemaker, a real cruel stinker, 5/01/07, by Virginia.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 5/10/07, by David MacRae.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 6/13/07, by Tracy Hans.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 6/14/07, by ff.
- Re: shoemaker, a real cruel stinker -- WRONG!!, 8/01/07, by dlpgppmi.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 8/05/07, by john LaRocque.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 8/05/07, by john LaRocque.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker--I'm not!!!!!, 9/09/07, by DC chick.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/09/07, by dc chick.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/09/07, by DC CHICK.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/09/07, by dc chick.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/09/07, by ff.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/16/07, by DC.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/16/07, by ff.
- Re: shoemaker, a real cruel stinker -- WRONG!!, 10/02/07, by Cory .
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/20/07, by sick and tired.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/21/07, by ff.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/21/07, by Audrey Schueck.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/21/07, by Audrey WS.
- Re: Dr. Shoemaker: One of a Kind, 10/21/07, by Erik Johnson.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/23/07, by ff.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker, Dr.Norton Fishman, A Better Choice, 11/04/07, by Rob.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker, Dr.Norton Fishman, A Better Choice, 11/06/07, by ff.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker, Dr.Norton Fishman, A Better Choice, 12/01/07, by Nikki.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker, Dr.Norton Fishman, A Better Choice, 12/01/07, by Nikki.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 12/23/07, by Tracy.
- Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 12/27/07, by Melody.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 12/27/07, by melody.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 12/28/07, by ff.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 12/28/07, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 12/28/07, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Shoemaker/defending/clarity, 1/05/08, by Tracy.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 1/05/08, by ff.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/09/08, by Tracy.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/09/08, by ff.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/18/08, by Tracy.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/19/08, by ff.
- Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/19/08, by Ticked off.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/19/08, by Ticked Off.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/19/08, by Ticked Off.
- Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/20/08, by ff.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/20/08, by ff.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/20/08, by ff.
- Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/20/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/22/08, by Tracy.
- Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/22/08, by ff.
- Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/22/08, by ff.
- Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/27/08, by Tracy.
- Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 2/22/08, by Deborah.
- Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 2/22/08, by ff.
- Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 3/03/08, by Deborah.
- Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 3/08/08, by JL.
- Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 4/06/08, by Me2, another lymie.
- Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 4/06/08, by me2.
- Re: Dr. James Baraniuk, 5/03/08, by Another CFS/CBT victim.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 5/21/08, by Katie.
- Re: Dr. James Baraniuk, 5/21/08, by Katie.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 5/25/08, by Tracy.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 6/09/08, by Jill.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 6/09/08, by Jill.
- Re: June 23rd, 6/17/08, by Tracy.
- Re: June 23rd, 6/27/08, by mgfs.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 6/30/08, by Paul B. Ross.
- Re: June 23rd, 7/08/08, by Robert Christ.
- Re: June 23rd, 7/13/08, by S.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 7/16/08, by Bruce.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 7/21/08, by Seattle.
- Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 7/21/08, by Seattle.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 7/28/08, by Former Klimas Patient.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 8/15/08, by Bad Experience.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 8/15/08, by Bad Experience.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 8/15/08, by BE.
- Re: June 23rd, 8/16/08, by Robert Christ.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 9/11/08, by Mary Ann.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with NO caveat, 9/11/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 9/14/08, by Joanie.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 9/14/08, by Joani.
- Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 9/14/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 9/21/08, by EnisP.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/11/08, by Surfer Chick.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/11/08, by Surfer Chick, Also........
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/12/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/19/08, by Maria.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/21/08, by Deborah.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/21/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Nancy Klimas, MD--MISDIAGNOSIS, 10/31/08, by Mass Lyme.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 10/31/08, by Mass Lyme.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/31/08, by Mass Lyme.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas doesn't test for Lyme Disease, 10/31/08, by Mass Lyme.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/01/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Nancy Klimas, MD--MISDIAGNOSIS, 11/21/08, by Pat.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/21/08, by Pat.
- Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 11/21/08, by Pat.
- Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 11/26/08, by johncodie.
- Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/17/09, by Cat Budak.
- Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/18/09, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/19/09, by Mike B..
- Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/19/09, by ErikMoldWarrior.
- Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/19/09, by Mike B..
- Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 3/26/09, by TROB.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 5/27/09, by Diana.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 6/28/09, by Helen Rinde.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 7/01/09, by Pat Sullivan.
- Re: Dr. Leila Zachrison, 7/01/09, by Colleen.
- Re: Dr. Leila Zackrison, 7/01/09, by Colleen.
- Re: Dr. Leila Zackrison, 7/09/09, by SD.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 7/09/09, by S.
- Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 7/09/09, by SD.
- Re: Re:CHINESE DRYWALL, 7/12/09, by HARVARD 708.
- Re: Re:CHINESE DRYWALL, 7/13/09, by Rem Dude.
- Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 7/21/09, by kat shaw.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 7/21/09, by kat shaw.
- Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 7/22/09, by CFSer.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/02/09, by Bric.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/10/09, by Patient.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/10/09, by bric.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/11/09, by Patient.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/11/09, by bric.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/28/09, by recovering mold pt..
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/28/09, by recovering mold pt..
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/29/09, by bric.
- Re: MCS factors, 8/29/09, by recovering mold pt..
- Re: MCS factors, 8/30/09, by bric.
- Re: MCS factors, 9/04/09, by recovering mold pt..
- Re: MCS factors, 9/08/09, by recovering mold pt..
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 9/11/09, by Pat Lassiter.
- Re: Shoemaker, 9/13/09, by Mold-Ill Patient.
- Re: William Rea MD, 9/28/09, by Lisa Nagy MD.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 10/09/09, by Pat Romanosky.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Lee Robin.
- Re: Dr. Klimas is A Fantastic CFS / XMRV Physician, 11/06/09, by Lee Robin.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/08/09, by Feagles.
- Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/17/09, by maggie k.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/09/10, by LRHH.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/09/10, by LRHH.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/09/10, by LRHH.
- Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker--BAD EXPERIENCE WITH DR. SHOEMAKER, 1/18/10, by Confused.
- Re: Dr. Richie Shoemaker , 3/14/10, by Dottie.
- Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, , 3/17/10, by Lisa, RN BSN. CFS patient.
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