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Re: ERIC
Posted by ff on 1/30/05


    Well, Hello Eric!

    Thank you for clearing up the confusion I saw from reading your posts. First, I
    am sincerely sorry that your wife has an illness, of any kind.

    Next, you having stated your credentials, I now understand, or view your
    comments about Dr. Shoemaker as opinions from someone who lacks not only basic
    information/facts, but the credentials to back-up your allegations, and
    especially to mischaracterize Dr. Shoemaker in the aggressive manner that you
    chose - go back and read what you said. Where do you get off "bringing people
    back from the dead" while also referring to fumbling doctors, without which, you
    would not be able to have even been present to "bring people back from the
    dead." Now, that's an interesting area or topic for discussion, and on that
    basis, maybe you think you're God, an angel, Jesus, or something, and certainly
    something above the doctors you assist? Was it you, the doctors, the equipment,
    divine intervention... Why is it YOU, bringing people back from the dead?

    I hit you like this because, in my opinion, and I read yours, you need a wake-up
    call as we often do. As GW stated, there's information out there on CSM and
    toxins, in fact, it is listed in an EPA book on treating pesticide exposures, as
    a cure - for chronic, long-term exposure... Why wouldn't your "brother-in-law"
    be aware of something like this, that is probably thirty to forty years old?????

    I sense frustration on your part due to your wife's illness and many on this
    board, including me, well understand this. But can you tell me that after
    taking CSM, stopping and drinking lots of water, and then your wife's condition
    having improved, that the CSM/Dr. Shoemaker's treatment - which came first - did
    not help your wife? Or, maybe it was YOU that "brought your wife back"?

    It is my own personal experience with Dr. Shoemaker's treatment, and significant
    improvement (remember, if you know as much as you claim, that after treatment,
    re-exposure can be a problem), the pattern sounded familiar...

    I do not see the need to continue on my part, but only to suggest that, if you
    truly seek an answer, or to substantiate your claims, you're not there yet.

    Accordingly, on your background, you stated your educational discrepancies are
    out of the way? Actually, I think you have discrepancies. You should do some
    more digging, get off the "flat-earth" thinking, or, and I state this kindly,
    bring yourself back from the dead at least in terms of the allegation and
    conclusions you seem to have made, reached.

    YOu might consider something like: "Dr. Shoemaker, thanks for your help. After
    your treatment my wife's health improved, but I told her to stop the CSM. She
    has not fully recovered."

    [by the way, did you eliminate all reasonable risks of exposure for your wife,
    confirmed or otherwise, especially the toxin produced by aspergillis?]

    FF



    On 1/29/05, Eric wrote:
    > On 1/29/05, Eric wrote:
    >> On 1/29/05, Eric wrote:
    >>> On 1/25/05, Greg Weatherman wrote:
    >>>> Erica,
    >>>>
    >>>> Reading comprehension is a skill they try to teach in public schools
    >>>> across America so we won't become a illiterate society fooled by half
    >>>> truths.
    >>>>
    >>>> No MD can cure all people of all problems. His website states this
    >>>> basic truth. I have sent people to him and they were happy with the
    >>>> results.
    >>>>
    >>>> I don't know about any FDA letters.
    >>>>
    >>>> He must understand ACTOS and DIABETES since he is an MD and he is
    >>>> DIABETIC (like many people in America). Ten years ago MDs were
    >>>> considered quacks for saying DDT or "agent orange" could be one of the
    >>>> causes for diabetes - not today. He has focused on MSH levels for a good
    >>>> reason.
    >>>>
    >>>> Voodoo medicine:
    >>>>
    >>>> CSM was shown to allow normally lethal doses of fumonisin B to be
    >>>> andministered to rats with no effect. CSM was also tried with horses
    >>>> (the equine industy has big money and connections). CSM is in the
    >>>> EPA "medical" handbook for the removal of neurotoxins such as
    >>>> pesticides. Dr. Shoemaker's research partners are Dr. Ken Hudnell (EPA
    >>>> neurotoxicologist) and Dennis House (retired EPA statistician).
    >>>>
    >>>> Isolation of Neurotoxins:
    >>>>
    >>>> A person can be exposed to organophosphate pesticides and get diagnosed
    >>>> in the emergency room for exposure and treated. Medical science has
    >>>> never isolated the pesticide from patients at the levels that affect the
    >>>> nervous system. Ask Dr. Richard Lipsey (who has litigated these cases
    >>>> for decades) if you need to isolate the toxin to prove the toxin caused
    >>>> harm when you have environmental exposure noted. Ask him what his job
    >>>> duties at the University of Florida required with physicians in Florida
    >>>> in the early to mid 1970's.
    >>>>
    >>>> Chronic Fatigue Syndrome:
    >>>>
    >>>> Many times, consutlants test for mold in complaint environments. They
    >>>> ignore bacteria. A common bacteria in chronic water damage is
    >>>> Streptomyces. It is an Actinomycete bacteria that grows well at room
    >>>> temperature starting at a water activity level of roughly 0.84 and
    >>>> higher. It can digest cellulose and chitin (mold is composed of
    >>>> chitin). More than one species of Streptomyces can produce valinomyocin
    >>>> (an exotoxin) which can inhibit the ATP process in cells. ATP is the
    >>>> essense of energy in all living life from human cells to plant to germs.
    >>>> CFS is not that far fetched. The most common chemical or microbial VOC
    >>>> isolated in moldy structures is geosmin which comes exclusively from
    >>>> Streptomyces.
    >>>>
    >>>> It is the reason dirt smells like dirt.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regards,
    >>>>
    >>>> Greg Weatherman
    >>>> aerobioLogical Solutions Inc.
    >>>> Arlington VA 22202
    >>>>
    >>>> gw@aerobiological.com
    >>>>
    >>>> ********************************************
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> Dear Mr. Greg Weatherman, I have been following Shoemaker for quit
    >>>>> some time now and know several people he's treated. The bottom line is
    >>>>> that this doctor is dangerous. Don't believe me? He just recently
    >>>>> received a warning letter from the FDA about his prescribing the
    >>>>> veterinary drug Staphage Lysate to human beings. Need further
    >>>>> evidence? He treats Lymes Disease with Actos, a diabetic medication
    >>>>> and does not understand how it works. That's because, in all
    >>>>> likelyhood, it is voodoo medicine. To make matters worse, the
    >>>>> cholesterol medication CSM that binds bilesalts to stools is treated
    >>>>> for a neurotoxin that he's NEVER isolated, for mold related disorders
    >>>>> he can't proove. The reason Dr. Shoemaker is dangerous is because he
    >>>>> prescribes medication based soley on theory and not scientific fact.
    >>>>> He is a mad quack. This is a physican who believes that because he
    >>>>> treated a woman with CSM and her headaches and lethargy went away that
    >>>>> it MUST BE related to a toxin; which is all theory and quackery, which
    >>>>> is something he can't proove. In all likelyhood, the reason the first
    >>>>> woman's symptoms went away after he treated her with CSM is because
    >>>>> she was no longer DEHYDRATED from diarrhea and thus felt better. But
    >>>>> this is going to seem too simple to you. You're going to scoff at
    >>>>> this. Fine. Dr. Shoemaker needs to proove it. The bottom line is, he
    >>>>> can't. And in all patients, placebo-affect is known to transcend
    >>>>> thirty percent of patients who think and want to feel better and most
    >>>>> importantly, HEAR it from a doctor. He may very well have isolated a
    >>>>> Pfisteria outbreak in Pockomoke. Good for him. But the idea that he
    >>>>> has a thriving business now based upon the idea that most CFS is
    >>>>> caused by neurtoxins is ridiculous. There is no proof. He treats
    >>>>> patients as if they were lab animals at his beck and call, under the
    >>>>> guise that he is doing them a favor. The tone in your text, suggesting
    >>>>> that the cockroaches will run for cover makes me think that you are a
    >>>>> fan of his; that's fine if you wish, but remember something, he may
    >>>>> very well be wrong.
    >
    > Adding an "a" to the end of my name is childish. And I suggest to you that
    > you've taken too personally my criticisms of Dr. Shoemaker. And so you say
    > that writing is taught, eh? Well I've got news for you. First, I'm a
    > Registered Nurse with over 10 years hospital experience; the last five of
    > which are in Critical Care. And I've saved hundreds of lives, sir; many dying
    > from toxic related shock and septicemia. Secondly, I've brought people back
    > from the dead, have you? I've brought people back from the dead from my
    > running the codes and directing and giving orders without the help of
    > fumbiling doctors. Second, I'm in school for my master's degree and third, I'm
    > a published writer. Now that the educational discrepencies are out of the way
    > I'll say this. Dr. Shoemaker may very well be on to something, he may very
    > well be right. And I agree with you, that there are plenty of warning signs
    > out right now to suggest that mold causes human illness. I'm open to that. And
    > I'm also chronically aware that lest then two hundred years ago people new
    > nothing of Bacteria, let alone viruses and prions. The problem I have with Dr.
    > Shoemaker is that his treatment modalities are unproven. Every study I've read
    > on Choelystriamine conflict. I've even talked to a colleague of mine whose
    > Brother-In-Law helped design and pioneer Choleystiramine. Even he doesn't
    > know. And my wife is diagnosed by Dr. Shoemaker as having a neurotoxin
    > mediated illness from Aspirgillus. And the bottom line is this, I've
    > instructed my wife to stop Choleystiramine and drink water and eat healthier
    > and excericise on a daily basis; you know what? She feels even better than
    > before she started the drug. Here is another bottom line. Medicine is evidence
    > based, not theory based. Shoemaker treats without proof and ABOVE ALL, he
    > should not only be open to criticism, as should you, especially with unrpooven
    > modalities, but he should even welcome it. As any pioneering reasercher would.
    > It is not Shoemaker vs. the Establishment. His priorities should be isolating
    > the neruotoxin and then, with double blind, placebo-controlled groups, finding
    > a way to measure for the toxin level drop in blood, while detecting an
    > increase in feces. We can do that with Cholstridium. And so you don't know
    > anything about Dr. Shoemaker's warning letter, huh? Then do this, unless
    > you're afraid to. Bring up the Google web browser and type, in this order:
    > Shoemaker, Ritchie C. And there, in pretty blue letters, right at the tipy-top
    > of the page, will be his FDA warning letter about using the doggie medicine
    > Staphage Lysate on Humans. Woof-Woof!


     
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