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Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE
Posted by ErikMoldWarrior on 11/01/08

On 10/31/08, Mass Lyme wrote:
> CFS is not a real illness, it's manufactured by the government and insurance companies to create a patient catagory. What
> makes you sick didn't make me sick, we are all individuals with different illnesses. Many of these so-called CFS patients have
> Lyme like me. I know someone who brain and nervous system was damaged from tear gas, I know others with hypothylamic hormonal
> deficiencies,mould, and many, many, many, with Lyme. The worst things a doctor can do is hang the CFS diagnosis around your
> neck. I have seen too much, these CFS doctors like Klimas, Bell, Levine have allowed so many patients untreated for Lyme. May
> the "Lymelight" shine shame on them.Damn them.
>

How ironic then, that Lyme is one of the illnesses that is exclusionary for a CFS diagnosis.
-ErikMW

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• shoemaker, 10/08/03, by sacliff@msn.com.
• Re: shoemaker, 10/09/03, by ff.
• Re: shoemaker, 10/11/03, by sherrie.
• Re: shoemaker, 10/12/03, by ff.
• Re: sherri eseeking info, 10/12/03, by ff.
• Re: sherri eseeking info, 10/15/03, by sherrie.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 12/01/03, by Terry Elias.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/29/04, by Nancy Bramson.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/10/04, by Teresa Greene.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/13/04, by Karen Parisis.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/29/04, by IanChristopher.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/29/04, by IanChristopher.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 4/02/04, by Gloria Horsley.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 4/02/04, by SD Teacher.
• Re: sherri eseeking info, 4/12/04, by sherrie.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/03/05, by john biles.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/04/05, by Greg Weatherman.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/06/05, by Kay Bowers.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/07/05, by curious.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/25/05, by Eric.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/25/05, by Greg Weatherman.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/29/05, by Eric.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/29/05, by Eric.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/29/05, by Eric.
• Re: ERIC, 1/30/05, by ff.
• Re: ERIC, 1/30/05, by ff.
• Re: shoemaker, 1/31/05, by Jyl Burgener.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/01/05, by Eric.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/02/05, by ff.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/24/05, by suzanne mccavanagh.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 2/24/05, by suzanne mccavanagh.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/29/05, by Janice.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker - wow, i'm stunned, 3/30/05, by mary.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker - wow, i'm stunned, 3/30/05, by Greg Weatherman.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker - wow, i'm stunned, 3/30/05, by mary.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/30/05, by v.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 5/12/05, by Andrea.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 5/22/05, by ZXR90.
• Re: shoemaker, 8/01/05, by Jim.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 8/05/05, by Linda Lee Johnson.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 8/05/05, by Linda Lee Johnson.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 9/14/05, by vivian.
• Re: shoemaker, 9/14/05, by vivian.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 10/08/05, by ANN.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 10/08/05, by ANN.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 10/10/05, by terry.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 11/27/05, by Marty Clarke.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 12/20/05, by Kurt D. Winterkorn.
• Re: Dr. Wintercorn, 12/21/05, by ff.
• Re: Dr. Shoemaker/Mr. Winterkorn, 12/21/05, by Tammy.
• Re: Dr. Wintercorn, 12/21/05, by v.
• Re: Re:Tammy/Mrs. Winterkorn, 12/23/05, by ff.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 12/23/05, by TMV.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 12/23/05, by A Griffith.
• Re: Re:Tammy/Mrs. Winterkorn, 12/23/05, by Greg Weatherman.
• Re: FF, 1/11/06, by DD.
• Re: FF, 2/28/06, by Sue.
• Re: FF, 2/28/06, by Sue.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/21/06, by Pat Romanosky.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 5/06/06, by Holly.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 7/02/06, by ed cohen.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 7/02/06, by ed cohen.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 9/11/06, by ANDREE Tanner.
• Re: shoemaker, 11/27/06, by Craig.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 11/29/06, by NOT AMUSED.
• Re: shoemaker, 12/16/06, by Kay.
• Re: shoemaker, 12/29/06, by AmerAcadMed1.
• Re: shoemaker, 3/13/07, by Claire.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/13/07, by Claire.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 3/14/07, by Fanua SP. (SCUPS-Student).
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 4/13/07, by Cindy Fulghum.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker--BAD EXPERIENCE WITH DR. SHOEMAKER, 5/01/07, by Virginia.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker--BAD EXPERIENCE WITH DR. SHOEMAKER, 5/01/07, by Virginia.
• Re: shoemaker, a real cruel stinker, 5/01/07, by Virginia.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 5/10/07, by David MacRae.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 6/13/07, by Tracy Hans.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 6/14/07, by ff.
• Re: shoemaker, a real cruel stinker -- WRONG!!, 8/01/07, by dlpgppmi.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 8/05/07, by john LaRocque.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 8/05/07, by john LaRocque.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker--I'm not!!!!!, 9/09/07, by DC chick.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/09/07, by dc chick.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/09/07, by DC CHICK.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/09/07, by dc chick.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/09/07, by ff.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/16/07, by DC.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 9/16/07, by ff.
• Re: shoemaker, a real cruel stinker -- WRONG!!, 10/02/07, by Cory .
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/20/07, by sick and tired.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/21/07, by ff.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/21/07, by Audrey Schueck.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/21/07, by Audrey WS.
• Re: Dr. Shoemaker: One of a Kind, 10/21/07, by Erik Johnson.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 10/23/07, by ff.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker, Dr.Norton Fishman, A Better Choice, 11/04/07, by Rob.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker, Dr.Norton Fishman, A Better Choice, 11/06/07, by ff.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker, Dr.Norton Fishman, A Better Choice, 12/01/07, by Nikki.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker, Dr.Norton Fishman, A Better Choice, 12/01/07, by Nikki.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 12/23/07, by Tracy.
• Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 12/27/07, by Melody.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 12/27/07, by melody.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 12/28/07, by ff.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 12/28/07, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 12/28/07, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Shoemaker/defending/clarity, 1/05/08, by Tracy.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 1/05/08, by ff.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/09/08, by Tracy.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/09/08, by ff.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/18/08, by Tracy.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/19/08, by ff.
• Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/19/08, by Ticked off.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/19/08, by Ticked Off.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/19/08, by Ticked Off.
• Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/20/08, by ff.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/20/08, by ff.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 1/20/08, by ff.
• Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/20/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/22/08, by Tracy.
• Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/22/08, by ff.
• Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/22/08, by ff.
• Re: To FF/ Dr. Shoemaker, 1/27/08, by Tracy.
• Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 2/22/08, by Deborah.
• Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 2/22/08, by ff.
• Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 3/03/08, by Deborah.
• Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 3/08/08, by JL.
• Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 4/06/08, by Me2, another lymie.
• Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 4/06/08, by me2.
• Re: Dr. James Baraniuk, 5/03/08, by Another CFS/CBT victim.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 5/21/08, by Katie.
• Re: Dr. James Baraniuk, 5/21/08, by Katie.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 5/25/08, by Tracy.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 6/09/08, by Jill.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 6/09/08, by Jill.
• Re: June 23rd, 6/17/08, by Tracy.
• Re: June 23rd, 6/27/08, by mgfs.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 6/30/08, by Paul B. Ross.
• Re: June 23rd, 7/08/08, by Robert Christ.
• Re: June 23rd, 7/13/08, by S.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 7/16/08, by Bruce.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 7/21/08, by Seattle.
• Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 7/21/08, by Seattle.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 7/28/08, by Former Klimas Patient.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 8/15/08, by Bad Experience.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 8/15/08, by Bad Experience.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 8/15/08, by BE.
• Re: June 23rd, 8/16/08, by Robert Christ.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 9/11/08, by Mary Ann.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with NO caveat, 9/11/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 9/14/08, by Joanie.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 9/14/08, by Joani.
• Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat, 9/14/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 9/21/08, by EnisP.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/11/08, by Surfer Chick.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/11/08, by Surfer Chick, Also........
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/12/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/19/08, by Maria.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/21/08, by Deborah.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/21/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Nancy Klimas, MD--MISDIAGNOSIS, 10/31/08, by Mass Lyme.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, 10/31/08, by Mass Lyme.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 10/31/08, by Mass Lyme.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas doesn't test for Lyme Disease, 10/31/08, by Mass Lyme.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/01/08, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Nancy Klimas, MD--MISDIAGNOSIS, 11/21/08, by Pat.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/21/08, by Pat.
• Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 11/21/08, by Pat.
• Re: Shoemaker, better CFS doctor than Dr. James Baranuik GU, 11/26/08, by johncodie.
• Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/17/09, by Cat Budak.
• Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/18/09, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/19/09, by Mike B..
• Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/19/09, by ErikMoldWarrior.
• Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 1/19/09, by Mike B..
• Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 3/26/09, by TROB.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 5/27/09, by Diana.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 6/28/09, by Helen Rinde.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 7/01/09, by Pat Sullivan.
• Re: Dr. Leila Zachrison, 7/01/09, by Colleen.
• Re: Dr. Leila Zackrison, 7/01/09, by Colleen.
• Re: Dr. Leila Zackrison, 7/09/09, by SD.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 7/09/09, by S.
• Re: Shoemaker & Cholestryramine Therapy for Mold Illness, 7/09/09, by SD.
• Re: Re:CHINESE DRYWALL, 7/12/09, by HARVARD 708.
• Re: Re:CHINESE DRYWALL, 7/13/09, by Rem Dude.
• Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 7/21/09, by kat shaw.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 7/21/09, by kat shaw.
• Re: Shoemaker, better than CFS experts at Georgetown Uni, 7/22/09, by CFSer.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/02/09, by Bric.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/10/09, by Patient.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/10/09, by bric.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/11/09, by Patient.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/11/09, by bric.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/28/09, by recovering mold pt..
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/28/09, by recovering mold pt..
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 8/29/09, by bric.
• Re: MCS factors, 8/29/09, by recovering mold pt..
• Re: MCS factors, 8/30/09, by bric.
• Re: MCS factors, 9/04/09, by recovering mold pt..
• Re: MCS factors, 9/08/09, by recovering mold pt..
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 9/11/09, by Pat Lassiter.
• Re: Shoemaker, 9/13/09, by Mold-Ill Patient.
• Re: William Rea MD, 9/28/09, by Lisa Nagy MD.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 10/09/09, by Pat Romanosky.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/06/09, by Peterson.
• Re: Dr. Nancy Klimas, A BAD EXPERIENCE , 11/06/09, by Lee Robin.
• Re: Dr. Klimas is A Fantastic CFS / XMRV Physician, 11/06/09, by Lee Robin.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/08/09, by Feagles.
• Re: Defending Dr. Shoemaker, 11/17/09, by maggie k.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/09/10, by LRHH.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/09/10, by LRHH.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, 1/09/10, by LRHH.
• Re: Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker--BAD EXPERIENCE WITH DR. SHOEMAKER, 1/18/10, by Confused.
• Re: Dr. Richie Shoemaker , 3/14/10, by Dottie.

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