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Re: Dr. Wintercorn
Posted by v on 12/21/05

    Hey guy! MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR. Same to every one else. Ya know, i may be
    wrong on this, i'm going back over 40 years. I thot it was Robo DC not ac, that had
    the kick. I'm tryin to rem.. AC was more benign, less potent. So i could see some one
    getting away with that with out any ill effects.


    On 12/21/05, ff wrote:
    >
    > I really appreciate the board now; it has helped in learning to be careful in
    > reaching conclusions, and to recognize that often times, even well-meaning people
    > that propose to have knowledge, really do not. It is not worth delving into, or
    > debating, as there are several basic, but significant flaws in the obvious attempt
    > to discredit Dr. Shoemaker.
    >
    > Setting aside the factual basis for exposure fo Wintercorn's distorted view, still
    > leaves the question as to whether Wintercorn himself, may be jealous of Dr.
    > Shoemeker - Wintercorn brought up the subject of jealousy.
    >
    > Without addressing specifics, recognize the award given to Dr. Shoemaker in recent
    > years - a Maryland MD of the year award. Get a life, Wintercorn, do something
    > good, take a break for the holidays...
    >
    > ff
    >
    >
    > On 12/20/05, Kurt D. Winterkorn wrote:
    >> I was his undergraduate college roommate at Duke, and he was a quack even back
    >> then. For fun and amusement, he used to drink whole bottles of Robitussin A-C
    >> (with codeine) at a time, and it's all been downhill since then. Some of his
    >> issues may have had to do with his competition for his mother's attention with
    >> his older brother Wells (who is also a physician, but I am told, not a quack).
    >>
    >> While doing his residency at Williamsport Hospital and Medical Center in
    > Lycoming
    >> County, Pennsylvania, he once introduced me on a visit to his workplace as a
    >> medical colleague and a researcher (I am in fact an attorney). Some patients
    >> with prescriptions for controlled substances written by Dr. Shoemaker found it
    >> difficult to get them filled at many pharmacies within a 50-mile radius of
    >> Williamsport - why that might have been, who knows?
    >>
    >> He then moved on to the DelMarVa peninsula to begin his private practice. One
    > of
    >> his former medical school associates, Dr. Tom Brennan, was in practice with him
    >> for a time, unless it all got to be too much for him and he cleared out for a
    >> saner locale, and apparently has never looked back.
    >>
    >> For an "interesting" read, check out his self-published book on pfisteria, which
    >> comes complete with wacky theories and inappropriate medical advice (I might
    > call
    >> it a novel, since much of it is fiction). After its publication, the CDC in
    >> Atlanta found it appropriate to issue a statement to the effect that "there is
    > no
    >> such syndrome as human pfisteria illness."
    >>
    >> The FDA warning letter can be found at:
    >> http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/g4710d.htm
    >>
    >> Persons needing medical attention are urged to seek medical advice and treatment
    >> from large, reputable hospitals and reputable physicians in their local
    >> communities, and leave off searching the Internet, lest they find themselves in
    >> the care of some physician similar to Dr. Shoemaker.
    >>
    >> KDW, Alexandria, Virginia
    >>
    >> -------------Earlier thread--------------
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Dear Mr. Greg Weatherman, I have been following Shoemaker for quit
    >>>>>>> some time now and know several people he's treated. The bottom line is
    >>>>>>> that this doctor is dangerous. Don't believe me? He just recently
    >>>>>>> received a warning letter from the FDA about his prescribing the
    >>>>>>> veterinary drug Staphage Lysate to human beings. Need further
    >>>>>>> evidence? He treats Lymes Disease with Actos, a diabetic medication
    >>>>>>> and does not understand how it works. That's because, in all
    >>>>>>> likelyhood, it is voodoo medicine. To make matters worse, the
    >>>>>>> cholesterol medication CSM that binds bilesalts to stools is treated
    >>>>>>> for a neurotoxin that he's NEVER isolated, for mold related disorders
    >>>>>>> he can't proove. The reason Dr. Shoemaker is dangerous is because he
    >>>>>>> prescribes medication based soley on theory and not scientific fact.
    >>>>>>> He is a mad quack. This is a physican who believes that because he
    >>>>>>> treated a woman with CSM and her headaches and lethargy went away that
    >>>>>>> it MUST BE related to a toxin; which is all theory and quackery, which
    >>>>>>> is something he can't proove. In all likelyhood, the reason the first
    >>>>>>> woman's symptoms went away after he treated her with CSM is because
    >>>>>>> she was no longer DEHYDRATED from diarrhea and thus felt better. But
    >>>>>>> this is going to seem too simple to you. You're going to scoff at
    >>>>>>> this. Fine. Dr. Shoemaker needs to proove it. The bottom line is, he
    >>>>>>> can't. And in all patients, placebo-affect is known to transcend
    >>>>>>> thirty percent of patients who think and want to feel better and most
    >>>>>>> importantly, HEAR it from a doctor. He may very well have isolated a
    >>>>>>> Pfisteria outbreak in Pockomoke. Good for him. But the idea that he
    >>>>>>> has a thriving business now based upon the idea that most CFS is
    >>>>>>> caused by neurtoxins is ridiculous. There is no proof. He treats
    >>>>>>> patients as if they were lab animals at his beck and call, under the
    >>>>>>> guise that he is doing them a favor. The tone in your text, suggesting
    >>>>>>> that the cockroaches will run for cover makes me think that you are a
    >>>>>>> fan of his; that's fine if you wish, but remember something, he may
    >>>>>>> very well be wrong.
    >>>
    >>> Adding an "a" to the end of my name is childish. And I suggest to you that
    >>> you've taken too personally my criticisms of Dr. Shoemaker. And so you say
    >>> that writing is taught, eh? Well I've got news for you. First, I'm a
    >>> Registered Nurse with over 10 years hospital experience; the last five of
    >>> which are in Critical Care. And I've saved hundreds of lives, sir; many dying
    >>> from toxic related shock and septicemia. Secondly, I've brought people back
    >>> from the dead, have you? I've brought people back from the dead from my
    >>> running the codes and directing and giving orders without the help of
    >>> fumbiling doctors. Second, I'm in school for my master's degree and third, I'm
    >>> a published writer. Now that the educational discrepencies are out of the way
    >>> I'll say this. Dr. Shoemaker may very well be on to something, he may very
    >>> well be right. And I agree with you, that there are plenty of warning signs
    >>> out right now to suggest that mold causes human illness. I'm open to that. And
    >>> I'm also chronically aware that lest then two hundred years ago people new
    >>> nothing of Bacteria, let alone viruses and prions. The problem I have with Dr.
    >>> Shoemaker is that his treatment modalities are unproven. Every study I've read
    >>> on Choelystriamine conflict. I've even talked to a colleague of mine whose
    >>> Brother-In-Law helped design and pioneer Choleystiramine. Even he doesn't
    >>> know. And my wife is diagnosed by Dr. Shoemaker as having a neurotoxin
    >>> mediated illness from Aspirgillus. And the bottom line is this, I've
    >>> instructed my wife to stop Choleystiramine and drink water and eat healthier
    >>> and excericise on a daily basis; you know what? She feels even better than
    >>> before she started the drug. Here is another bottom line. Medicine is evidence
    >>> based, not theory based. Shoemaker treats without proof and ABOVE ALL, he
    >>> should not only be open to criticism, as should you, especially with unrpooven
    >>> modalities, but he should even welcome it. As any pioneering reasercher would.
    >>> It is not Shoemaker vs. the Establishment. His priorities should be isolating
    >>> the neruotoxin and then, with double blind, placebo-controlled groups, finding
    >>> a way to measure for the toxin level drop in blood, while detecting an
    >>> increase in feces. We can do that with Cholstridium. And so you don't know
    >>> anything about Dr. Shoemaker's warning letter, huh? Then do this, unless
    >>> you're afraid to. Bring up the Google web browser and type, in this order:
    >>> Shoemaker, Ritchie C. And there, in pretty blue letters, right at the tipy-top
    >>> of the page, will be his FDA warning letter about using the doggie medicine
    >>> Staphage Lysate on Humans. Woof-Woof!


     
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