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Re: Defending Shoemaker with caveat
Posted by Jill on 6/09/08

    On 5/25/08, Tracy wrote:
    > Yes Katie, I too was suprised at that (in his packet). I am doing much better, needed to have a
    > doctor look very closely at what was going on, and to not give up until s/he did. That is
    > something RS wouldn't/couldn't do, unfortunately.
    > He did provide some info for the other docs and for me (did some thorough testing), and also I am
    > still using the VCS test to measure my toxin level. In the end I am greatful to the many docs who
    > offered pieces of the puzzle. I could've given up a million times, but I kept pushing and 'doc
    > hopping'. I can finally rest- at a cellular level, my current doc and I understand what is going
    > on. Because it took so long to find out, my treatment is taking a while, we are addressing layer
    > after layer of issues.
    > I am glad your mother got better with the help of Dr. Burrascano. I am actually being helped
    > immensely by someone he trained who worked with him. What a great man, well, both of them.
    > Thanks for the feedback- hope you are well.
    >
    >
    > On 5/21/08, Katie wrote:
    >> Tracy,
    >> I think I would listen to the doctor who will TREAT chronic Lyme. My mom had chronic Lyme and is
    >> fine after 2 years of antibiotics. The post lyme syndrome is an excuse not to treat long term.
    >> post lyme syndrome a way out for doctors not to deal with the illness much the way a CFS
    >> diagnosis is given.
    >> I don't believe in Post Lyme Syndrome as my Mother's doctor told her "saying post lyme syndrome
    >> is no more true than post alzheimers. Either you got an active Lyme infection or you don't.
    >> My mother was a patient of Dr. Burrascano.
    >> I would only keep a doctor who will make you comfortable. You need to not only get first class
    >> care but have a trust and respectful relationship with the doctor too.
    >>
    >> I understand about that packet. I called his office for one out just in case my mother didn't
    >> get well. We were both surprised at the level of immaturity written by a doctor in his patient
    >> package. I am in high school and even I know better than to send this trash to patients if you
    >> expoect to run a good business. I could not believe the complaints about the millionaire who
    >> didn't pay, the housewife and all these examples of him being not paid by patients. If he is
    >> that paranoid about not getting payment from his patients he could tell patients to prepay with
    >> a check two weeks in advance or a credit card.
    >> What a strange guy!
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 12/23/07, Tracy wrote:
    >>> Hi! When I posted last year (see above), I had only read about the doctor and read some of
    >> his
    >>> work. Sorry, seems that I might've misled a few readers). I wrote about my philosophy and
    >>> about risk taking and in general, doctors going against the grain, theory driven treatment,
    >>> etc. I was (and still am) impressed with the writing and the work that RS does (with a caveat
    >>> regarding attitude). It is a warning, as there is so much political angst tied up in research
    >>> on chronic illness, and it is coming out in many ways (we see it in our own discussion here).
    >>>
    >>> I recently went to him, and am starting the protocol. Not sure how though (more below). I
    >>> totally understand folks responding to doctor and staff's odd or negative attitudes. I felt
    >>> comfortable during the visit, but after that had two phone sessions where I perceived a lot of
    >>> hostility on his end. In between, he sent me this fax that was incredibly insensitive. I
    >>> believe that it was in response to my telling him that I had a standing appointment to see a
    >>> (specific) Lyme doctor. During the second phone call he questioned why I was seeing him (Lyme
    >>> specialist). Reading in between the lines, two months later, I realize they simply dislike
    >>> each other. That might be putting it mildly. I was/am caught in the middle. I didn't know
    >> it
    >>> then though. It was so difficult and upsetting to read his fax, which was accompanied by a
    >>> test result (C4a) that was so out of whack. The fax reads "You are making very poor decisions
    >>> in regards to the evaluation of your health. You should've gotten an MR Spectroscopy. You
    >> need
    >>> to look more closely at the mechanism of your illness". And that was it. He and I had never
    >>> talked about an MR Spectroscopy. Someone from his office had called me while I was on my way
    >>> to see if I wanted it, and I said that I didn't know, that she should try to schedule it for
    >>> me. She ended up saying I'd have to stay in MD for another few days, which I couldn't do. So
    >>> I figured he and I would talk about it, but it never came up.
    >>>
    >>> After getting the fax, I called over to one of his staff, and was informed that she couldn't
    >>> tell me specifically what the message was referring to. She said he wanted to 'prepare me for
    >>> the next phone consult'. I spent all my waking hours trying to figure out what C4a
    >>> specifically meant, and was so confused. Lyme or no Lyme??? It was a very difficult thing to
    >>> go through. I'm still not 100&37; sure why according to him I am not making good decisions in
    >>> regards to my health (I have stopped at NOTHING to gain new information, to take a thorough
    >>> approach, to honestly look at all results, take into account all doctos, all research, etc. I
    >>> have kept all my records, etc. Been like the model patient). So to read that, I was VERY
    >>> surprised. And I took it personally. As I did the attacks on Shoemaker and his research,
    >> from
    >>> this Lyme doctor after I went. I have to say that I feel very isolated due to BOTH of these
    >>> doctors' lack of sensitivity. It has left me unsure of which protocol to follow. I cannot
    >>> seem to fit them both in, I would have to modify one. One seems to believe in Chronic Lyme,
    >>> the other in Post Lyme Syndrome.
    >>>
    >>> So I find myself caught up in this mix, and am trying to separate personality, defensiveness,
    >>> etc. from science. But I am not a doctor. I am a Licensed Psychotherapist and I cannot
    >> figure
    >>> this out. If you read the introduction section of the packet Dr. Shoe sends, it sounds like
    >>> words from a war veteran- you can tell he has been burned before and has scars to prove it.
    >>>
    >>> I'm not sure what I'm getting at here, just that I want to recognize folks' experience of the
    >>> backlash of this- the result of possibly burned out staff, the doctor so used to defending
    >>> himself that it is projected onto patients, etc. I am not excusing it, but perhaps validating
    >>> some people's experience here. And I guess I'm also wanting to ask if anyone here has tried a
    >>> modified protocol (CSM 2x/day as opposed to 4, along with antibiotics at the same time).
    >>>
    >>> Both doctors seem very concerned about the status of my health (Dr.Shoemaker said I should be
    >>> existing in a bubble, the other doc said if I continue to go without aggressive Lyme
    >> treatment,
    >>> I will have a worse spect scan / brain damage). I honestly don't want to ever talk to either
    >>> one again. What a position to be in.
    >>>
    >>> There's one more thing I want to add, an ODD thing, and that surrounds the Mycometrics. Has
    >>> anyone done this (ERMI) testing?
    >>> Thanks in advance to your response-
    >>> Tracy
    >>>


     
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