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    Re: MCS brought on by toxid mold and flat earth ff

    Posted by ff on 1/24/04


    I understand. Some time back, a long time back, I wrote on something
    that I have noticed over the years and it has to do with experience.
    You, seemingly having taken a posiiton on an issue, have experience.

    For first time victims, i.e. without experience, by the time they
    realize their manner of presentation to various audiences is
    discrediting to them, and to the issue, it's too late.

    People that have been injured tend to cry out because of the pain, and
    that is understandable. The problems come with the fact that those
    they rely on as well as the opposition, cannot feel the pain and
    therefore may get tired of listening to the whining. I believe this
    is a problem in the agencies, which after a period of time would have
    to become calloused to cries from a whining public. On the other
    hand, they do not hear the whining from the "other side," and that
    serves to facilitate relationships.


    On 1/24/04, Mary wrote:
    > ff:
    > I'm being too obscure. None of these comments, in caps no less, are
    > directed at you, and they don't really come from me.
    > I am just reacting to the prior post from someone ranting the "you
    > can't tell me...." line. People like this have closed their minds,
    > or are in some kind of weird denial, so what is the point of even
    > posting?
    > Sorry for any confusing.
    > Best Regards,
    > Mary
    > On 1/24/04, ff wrote:
    >> Mary:
    >> And there's the difference. To you, it's all about you. To me,
    >> it's not about me. Solve the problemn alleged to have been caused
    >> by exposure to mold, tell us "what it is," and not "what it is
    >> not."
    >> ff
    >> On 1/24/04, Mary wrote:
    >>> Hey ff:
    >>> I think you get my point.
    >>> Best Regards,
    >>> Mary
    >>> On 1/24/04, ff wrote:
    >>>> mary:
    >>>> I think you have it backwards. The flat earth thinking, the
    >>>> earth as the center of the universe, is consistent with those
    >>>> that grab onto a concept without realizing they may not know
    >>>> everything (well, I've said it before, they gain comfort in
    >>>> what they know, but find discomfort in considering how much
    >>>> they do not know. It's understandable, to spend years
    >>>> learning, thinking you know, gaining confidence in what you
    >>>> know, and then to learn there's more to it, or worse, it was
    >>>> wrong.)
    >>>> So who's going to change the scientific consensus as carved in
    >>>> stone by the "It ain't mold group" ? Better yet, if it's not
    >>>> so, then why hasn't it been changed.
    >>>> The answers lie in what typically drives, or funds, science.
    >>>> So, it's back to suppression bias. Conducting the science to
    >>>> prove that, for example, microbes have evolved, adapted,
    >>>> physically and biologically, due to changes in the
    >>>> environment, specifically man-made events, and as a result,
    >>>> people are getting sick, structures are rendered useless, of
    >>>> no value, and numerous entities face liability, would likely
    >>>> receive $0 funding from the corporations liable in such a case.
    >>>> That's not attractive to most, and certainly, who in the heck
    >>>> would want to fund such an effort? After all, creating
    >>>> miracles is what science should be about, you know, science
    >>>> and research that leads to good things, products that make our
    >>>> lives easier and produce profits. Now, that's exciting!
    >>>> Imagine a corporate scientist walking into the board meeting
    >>>> stating, WOW! look what my science shows, product X we have
    >>>> been manufacturing for years is killing people. This is
    >>>> proof, we must get it off the market, find the victims, give
    >>>> them the medical help needed to save lives...
    >>>> Anyway, Mary, it may be a fact of life we have to accept, but
    >>>> you do know better. When human health is at stake, the
    >>>> legitimate scientists try to solve the problem by finding
    >>>> out "what it is," and not "what it is not."
    >>>> ff
    >>>>> Well then I guess that says it all. And I'm thinking some
    >>>>> smart people used to say the same thing about the earth
    >>>>> being flat. And the sun orbited the earth. But, since you
    >>>>> are sure, then what else is left?
    >>>>> Best Regards,
    >>>>> Mary
    >>>>> On 1/23/04, waldo lewis wrote:
    >>>>>> I came upon this website after searching for "mold
    >>>>> allergy". I can't quite figure out what all the messages are
    >>>>> about, but, I for one know first hand that toxid mold did me
    >>>>> in. I have a almost flat roof on my house and you can't see
    >>>>> it from below. To make a long story/short, the roof must
    >>>>> have been leaking for quite some time. By the time we found
    >>>>> it----By smelling the mold in the upper bedrooms (mildew
    >>>>> smell), it was too late to do anything about it ourselves.
    >>>>> We had mold remediation done to the whole wall in the back
    >>>>> of the house even going 8 feet into the ceiling. NOW, I am
    >>>>> effected by the morning paper, the car and even walking
    >>>>> throught the super markets.
    >>>>>> case closed..Waldo

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