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    Re: Recall: nasal spray decongestant

    Posted by ff on 3/28/04

    Thanks DD, RPenn. Interestingly. it looks like the anti-fungals
    incorporated into paints, coatings, materials, pharmaceuticals, ag
    chemicals, have adverse effects on non-target organisms including
    pseudomonads (aeruginosa, fluorescens, putida...). In fact, the anti-
    fungals, in some instances, are actually a food source for the microbes.

    Anti-fungal + moisture = bacterial growth (on/in treated indoor
    surfaces). And again, we probably are dealing with resistance fungal
    strains as well. So, for the one-thing-thinkers, it's likely not just
    one thing. We need to look at the impact of chemicals on the (indoor)
    microbial community.


    On 3/24/04, RPenn wrote:
    > Note CDC's MMWR Dispatch for 03/24/04
    > In addition, from what I understand, B cepacia was previously
    > classified as a Pseudemonas, but is different than P aeruginosa.
    > RP
    > On 3/24/04, dd wrote:
    >> Found it on sbc, "aureobasidium pullulans"
    >> On 3/24/04, dd wrote:
    >>> No, and I looked it up! Can't find the post, either.
    >>> On 3/21/04, ff wrote:
    >>>> Clarification:
    >>>> The investigation referred to below was in Florida and not
    >>>> related to the Colorado incident.
    >>>> ff
    >>>>> DD:
    >>>>> Yes, it was recalled due to contamination with pseudomonas,
    >>>>> whoops!, Burkholderia cepacia.
    >>>>> Pseudomonas aeruginosa was an organism intended to be included
    >>>>> in the investigation by the state (AEROTECH was the
    >>>>> contractor).
    >>>>> ff
    >>>>> I was On 3/21/04, dd wrote:
    >>>>>> I have no idea, but I had walking pnuemonia after
    >>>>> exposure.
    >>>>>> I refused to take the nasal decongestants that were given
    >>>>> to
    >>>>>> me because my symptoms got much worse after one dosage.
    >>>>>> Most of these sprays contain steriods of some sort and that
    >>>>>> is an immune system supressant. Saline water is best. Guess
    >>>>>> I'll get the pharmacy company nazis after me now. Just
    >>>>>> kidding, sort of.
    >>>>>> Are you referring to the nasal spray itself being
    >>>>>> contaminated with this bacteria?
    >>>>>> You are speaking to someone who has been poisoned with
    >>>>>> chlordane twice, once by landlord who worked at chemical
    >>>>>> company and the other time by Terminex. Dioxin and a couple
    >>>>>> of others were in the mix.
    >>>>>> On 3/21/04, ff wrote:
    >>>>>>> DD:
    >>>>>>> The product was recalled after a hospital in Colorado
    >>>>>>> reported infections and found Burkholderia cepacia, in the
    >>>>>>> product.
    >>>>>>> DD, in your research maybe you could find why this
    >>>>>>> organism, pseudomonas, was renamed Burholderia cepacia.
    >>>>>>> It is also a common plant pathogen, and that's where I
    >>>>>>> first saw the name change. Research indicates that a
    >>>>>>> common fungicide routinely applied to soil (and
    >>>>>>> incorporated into paints, coatings, and materials) causes
    >>>>>>> shifts in populations to dominance by pseudomonas.
    >>>>>>> Is pseudomonas on your list of microbes tested for? I'd
    >>>>>>> place pseudomonas into the group of ignored pathogens in
    >>>>>>> IAQ situations, along with fusarium and cyanobacteria.
    >>>>>>> One agency's theory was that the three flourish after
    >>>>>>> chemical application.
    >>>>>>> ff

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