Re: Recall: nasal spray decongestant

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Thanks DD, RPenn. Interestingly. it looks like the anti-fungals
incorporated into paints, coatings, materials, pharmaceuticals, ag
chemicals, have adverse effects on non-target organisms including
pseudomonads (aeruginosa, fluorescens, putida...). In fact, the anti-
fungals, in some instances, are actually a food source for the microbes.

Anti-fungal + moisture = bacterial growth (on/in treated indoor
surfaces). And again, we probably are dealing with resistance fungal
strains as well. So, for the one-thing-thinkers, it's likely not just
one thing. We need to look at the impact of chemicals on the (indoor)
microbial community.

ff

On 3/24/04, RPenn wrote:
> Note CDC's MMWR Dispatch for 03/24/04
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm53d324a1.htm
>
> In addition, from what I understand, B cepacia was previously
> classified as a Pseudemonas, but is different than P aeruginosa.
>
> RP
>
>
>
> On 3/24/04, dd wrote:
>> Found it on sbc, "aureobasidium pullulans"
>>
>> On 3/24/04, dd wrote:
>>> No, and I looked it up! Can't find the post, either.
>>> On 3/21/04, ff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clarification:
>>>>
>>>> The investigation referred to below was in Florida and not
>>>> related to the Colorado incident.
>>>>
>>>> ff
>>>>
>>>>> DD:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it was recalled due to contamination with pseudomonas,
>>>>> whoops!, Burkholderia cepacia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pseudomonas aeruginosa was an organism intended to be included
>>>>> in the investigation by the state (AEROTECH was the
>>>>> contractor).
>>>>>
>>>>> ff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was On 3/21/04, dd wrote:
>>>>>> I have no idea, but I had walking pnuemonia after
>>>>> exposure.
>>>>>> I refused to take the nasal decongestants that were given
>>>>> to
>>>>>> me because my symptoms got much worse after one dosage.
>>>>>> Most of these sprays contain steriods of some sort and that
>>>>>> is an immune system supressant. Saline water is best. Guess
>>>>>> I'll get the pharmacy company nazis after me now. Just
>>>>>> kidding, sort of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you referring to the nasal spray itself being
>>>>>> contaminated with this bacteria?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are speaking to someone who has been poisoned with
>>>>>> chlordane twice, once by landlord who worked at chemical
>>>>>> company and the other time by Terminex. Dioxin and a couple
>>>>>> of others were in the mix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/21/04, ff wrote:
>>>>>>> DD:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The product was recalled after a hospital in Colorado
>>>>>>> reported infections and found Burkholderia cepacia, in the
>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DD, in your research maybe you could find why this
>>>>>>> organism, pseudomonas, was renamed Burholderia cepacia.
>>>>>>> It is also a common plant pathogen, and that's where I
>>>>>>> first saw the name change. Research indicates that a
>>>>>>> common fungicide routinely applied to soil (and
>>>>>>> incorporated into paints, coatings, and materials) causes
>>>>>>> shifts in populations to dominance by pseudomonas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is pseudomonas on your list of microbes tested for? I'd
>>>>>>> place pseudomonas into the group of ignored pathogens in
>>>>>>> IAQ situations, along with fusarium and cyanobacteria.
>>>>>>> One agency's theory was that the three flourish after
>>>>>>> chemical application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ff

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