Re: Valentine's Day
Posted by ff on 2/17/08
Mike B.: What's going on, what are these girls doing to get you riled up? Forget it, let it slide.
YOu've really put some great inof on the board. Your article about DIA was interesting as
well. Specifically, the amount of time, several years, that it took for the occupants to
realize that there health problems were in fact caused by mold at DIA. This supports my point to BB that in order to come up with accurate numbers for this disaster,
we need MD's trained to recognize/diagnose it. I think that's related to Sharon's interest, in
that the ACOEM doesn't accomplish that. Instead, the ACOEM confuses the issue by nearly
dismissing the issue entirely. There's a lot of mold expertise in the Denver area, which was obviously tapped in reaching the
conclusion on mold and health effects at DIA. ff
On 2/17/08, ff wrote:
> Sharon:
>
> I'm really concerned here, this just isn't typical of Mike B. anymore, what's going on?
>
> ff
>
> On 2/16/08, Sharon wrote:
>> Mike B,
>>
>> There is NOTHING that justifies how you have harassed and made implied threatening remarks
> to
>> Deborah for quite some time. Why would you even think it is appropriate to taunt that you
>> are annonymous while asking the where abouts of her child in conjunction with her husbands
>> death?...while implying you live near her in real life. Answer: You don't. I have seen
>> you do this over and over again to her, while implying you live in New Orleans. You appear
> to
>> take delight in this. It's one thing to spar, it's another to intentionally intimidate
>> regarding one's life off of the chatboard world, while remaining anonymous.
>>
>> And when I asked you to stop harassing Deborah in such a way, you instead decided to
>> cyberstalk and track my life, too. In your own words, you have admitted this is what
> brought
>> on your rage with me. Now, you are writing malicious lies about me on a public chatboard
>> while hiding behind your annonimity. And these are not small lies of no consequence.
>>
>> You have a problem, Mike B. And it is really obvious. And I am going to take steps to find
>> out your true identity on Monday. You have gone WAY TOO FAR to remain annonymous any
> longer.
>>
>> 1. "On 2/15/08, Mike B. wrote:
>>
>> ....."It was on this same board where you and I were first "introduced" after you stuck
>> your nose into my discussions with Deborah Davitt."
>>
>> 2. "On 2/15/08, Mike B. wrote:
>> For the umpteenth time, my name is not important; I have no financial interests in this.
>>
>> How did your husband die? Where is your child that lived with you while you were
>> allegedly exposed to chlordane, etc.?"
>>
>>
>> (Deborah, once again, trying to fend off a cyberstalker who is physically close in
>> location to her) "On 2/15/08, Deborah wrote:
>> For the umpteenth time, I fail to feel a need or desire to answer personal questions
>> from an anonymous poster. It is unimportant to me.
>>
>> Your alleged lack of financial interests cannot be verified due to your anonymity."
>>
>>
>> 3. "On 2/13/08, Mike B. wrote:
>> Sharon is going to give Bruce Kelman a nice Valentine's
>> gift tomorrow - documents she's been withholding from
>> production. I'll bet there are some treasures amongst them!"
>>
>> 4."Re: Bruce Kelman versus Sharon Kramer - Update
>> Posted by Mike B. on 2/04/08
>>
>> Really, Sharon, what's the problem with your discovery
>> responses? Are you withholding production of documents that
>> have been requested or subpoenaed? What kind of documents are
>> being sought by Kelman? Will those documents help him in his
>> suit against you?"
>>
>> Sharon
>>
>> On 2/16/08, Deborah wrote:
>>> First, I did in post information regarding my spouse and Vet issues within counsel net some
>>> time ago. I also posted information regarding A O and mold exposures faced by V i e t Vets
>>> as it paralleled my later civilian experiences with the same toxins.
>>>
>>> Second, I have wondered frequently, and made statements about the level of incompetence or
>>> complete disregard for another's safety it would take for any of the landlords who poisoned
>>> us through their direct action or negligence, a couple of them with substances or by means
>>> of which they had a much higher level of expertise in than any average citizen. I have
>>> wondered if it was intentional and others have suggested too much has/had happened to be all
>>> coincidental.
>>>
>>> Third, I have yet to see you make a valid point or statement explaining why you are here,
>>> why you have focused on me, although you did indicate that your attack on Sharon was the
>>> direct result of her standing up for me during our "discussion", and what your personal,
>>> immediate interest is in toxic torts. I must have been sleeping, discussions imply some
>>> level of give and take; I also don't have discussions with anonymous individuals as a rule.
>>>
>>> Fourth, you ask, no demand, answers to questions you pose yet refuse to answer any of the
>>> simplest questions posed to you then act chagrined when you fail to receive the recognition
>>> or respect you so obviously crave.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/16/08, Mike B. wrote:
>>>> Sharon Kramer:
>>>>
>>>> I invite you to do something similar to what you did yesterday on the thread Deborah
>>>> Davitt started regarding "diversion tactics", and go back in time on this board looking
>>>> for the many comments posted by Deborah about her husband's death, and her child living
>>>> with her at the time she freely says she was intentionally poisoned by her landlords.
>>>>
>>>> To any reasonable person, this will demonstrate the relevancy of my questions. It will
>>>> also evidence how much Deborah likes to discuss them when telling details of her life
>>>> story on this board dating back to 2002.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/16/08, Sharon wrote:
>>>>> Deborah,
>>>>>
>>>>> "He starts this, disappears, returns and the cycle begins again. This goes beyond
>>>>> lurking."
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. I have come to notice that pattern, too. It is like he can't control himself.
>>>>> The cycle starts off moderate and gets more aggressive as he goes. It always seems to
>>>>> culminate with some personal questions about you that are phrased in an eery,
>>>>> inappropriate way - on the verge of a threat - but not quite. Like taunting how he can
>>>>> stay anonymous while asking the where abouts of your child and discussing the death of
>>>>> your husband. What does that have to do with a toxic tort discussion? Nothing. And
>>>>> it is the same pattern over and over again. It is one thing to spar on these boards
>>>>> with those who are on the opposite side of an issue. But this guy has a problem. He
>>>>> doesn't even like to discuss the issue. He just likes to harass you, and now me for
>>>>> speaking up for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/16/08, Deborah wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/15/08, Mike B. wrote:
>>>>>> Statement: "It was on this same board where you and I were first "introduced" after
>>>>>> you stuck your nose into my discussions with Deborah Davitt."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comment: The fact that he would call the exchanges "discussions" is indicative of
>>>>>> some disassociation with reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He starts this, disappears, returns and the cycle begins again. This goes beyond
>>>>> lurking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/15/08, Sharon wrote:
>>>>>>>> To reiterate:
>>>>>>>> On 2/15/08, Sharon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mike B,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's it. You are NOT correct with the false information you are publicly
>>>>>>>>>> putting out about me, based on nothing but a document you found on the
>>>>>>>>>> internet. And I NEVER post or monitor the ToxTort board. I monitor the
>>>>>>>>>> Black Mold Board. Thank God, someone else does monitor this board and
>>>>>>>>>> alerted me to the malicious lies you are writing about me....once again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am not withholding any documents that I am required to turn over. Kelman
>>>>>>>>>> is not requesting any new documents from me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is malicious on your part. I have asked you to stop NUMEROUS times.
>>>>>>>>>> Yet, you continue to put out false information, even after being told it is
>>>>>>>>>> false.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I told you exactly what happened. I switched legal counsel and they were
>>>>>>>>>> delayed in turning over documents beyond the date stipulated with the prior
>>>>>>>>>> attorney.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have chosen to continue to stalk me while remaining annonymous thru a
>>>>>>>>>> pseudoname, yet publicly implying and outright stating that I am lying and
>>>>>>>>>> hiding something, when I am not. Nor have I ever been accused of hiding
>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have had it with you. No more. That's it. I will be seeking legal
>>>>>>>>>> council on Monday.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/15/08, Sharon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mike B,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Below is the history of this board for the past year. I have not posted on
>>>>>>>>> this bord for over one year until your malicious lies about me, that you have
>>>>>>>>> posted on this board, were brought to my attention.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Military Housing, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Disinformation tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Important Article, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Diversion tactics, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Valentine's Day, 2/13/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/14/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/14/08, by Sharon.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/14/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/14/08, by Mike B.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/14/08, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/14/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/14/08, by Sharon.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/14/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/15/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/15/08, by Sharon.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Valentine's Day, 2/15/08, by Sharon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Camp Lejeune Water Contamination, 2/06/08, by Andrea.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Camp Lejeune Water Contamination, 2/15/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Abstract of Study - Discuss This, 2/05/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Abstract of Study - Discuss This, 2/05/08, by ff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bruce Kelman versus Sharon Kramer - Update, 2/01/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Bruce Kelman versus Sharon Kramer - Update, 2/04/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Holy Fungus Batman, 2/01/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Holy Fungus Batman, 2/05/08, by Pauline Phillips.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Recent Report on the Dead Zone, 1/31/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Recent Report on the Dead Zone, 1/31/08, by ff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ahmedsdsds, 1/27/08, by Ahmedsdsds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Update on Camp Lejeune-TFTPTF Website, 1/16/08, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SLAPP, 1/07/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mold Victim Fighting For Her Life, 1/06/08, by Darlene.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Katrina Cough Study II, 1/04/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Katrina Cough Study II, 1/04/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Katrina Cough Study II, 1/05/08, by ff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AIHA Webinar, 1/02/08, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Threats and Intimidation, 12/13/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sharon Kramer Legal Opinion, 12/13/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Sharon Kramer Legal Opinion, 12/14/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TO: ff, Myco, Sharon Kramer, Deborah, v, et al., 12/11/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: TO: ff, Myco, Sharon Kramer, Deborah, v, et al., 12/11/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: TO: ff, Myco, Sharon Kramer, Deborah, v, et al., 12/11/07, by v.
>>>>>>>>> Re: TO: ff, Myco, Sharon Kramer, Deborah, v, et al., 12/12/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> May Your Children Rot in Hell - Sharon Kramer, 12/11/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: May Your Children Rot in Hell - Sharon Kramer, 12/15/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: May Your Children Rot in Hell - Sharon Kramer, 12/15/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Your opponents rest ? - ff, 12/15/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Your opponents rest ? - ff, 12/28/07, by John Codie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Your opponents rest ? - ff, 12/28/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Your opponents rest ? - ff, 12/28/07, by Johncodie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Your opponents rest ? - ff, 12/28/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FEMA and Moldy Trailers, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mold Litigation News, 11/20/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another Mold Settlement, 11/19/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/20/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/21/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/22/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/23/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/23/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/23/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/26/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/27/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/27/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/27/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/27/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/27/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/27/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/28/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Another Mold Settlement, 11/28/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ferry Mold, 11/19/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Ferry Mold, 11/19/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Screening, 11/08/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Screening, 11/08/07, by Boogieman.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Screening, 11/09/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Screening, 11/09/07, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [deleted], 10/23/07, by Anitymncani.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CAMP LEJEUNE WATER CONTAMINATION, 10/12/07, by Andrea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NY-Toxic Materials found inside my apartment, 10/09/07, by marie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: NY-Toxic Materials found inside my apartment, 10/24/07, by Johncodie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: NY-Toxic Materials found inside my apartment, 11/02/07, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> name, 9/26/07, by name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Help the webmaster help you with spam, 9/16/07, by Bob Reap (webmaster).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune between 1957 and 1987?, 9/05/07, by Andrea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sporicidin and Bleach, 8/26/07, by Rick Kurland.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Sporicidin and Bleach, 8/27/07, by RemDude.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Sporicidin and Bleach, 8/30/07, by John Code.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Sporicidin and Bleach, 10/26/07, by jim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Camp Lejeune's water blamed for ills, 6/12/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Canned Foods, 5/17/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chromium Linked To Cancer Says NIH, 5/17/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Chromium Linked To Cancer Says NIH, 6/19/07, by M Bob Mean.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would like to discover you were living in this toxic soup?, 5/15/07, by Angel.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Would like to discover you were living in this toxic sou, 5/16/07, by cj.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Would like to discover you were living in this toxic sou, 6/12/07, by
>>>>>>>>> Angel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Toxic Mold? Limitations uncovered..., 5/15/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Toxic Mold? Limitations uncovered..., 5/15/07, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Toxic Mold? Limitations uncovered..., 5/15/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Toxic Mold? Limitations uncovered..., 5/15/07, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Toxic Mold? Limitations uncovered..., 5/15/07, by ff.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Toxic Mold? Limitations uncovered..., 5/15/07, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olen Properties HIde Mold Severity in Vegas, 5/14/07, by Angel.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Olen Properties HIde Mold Severity in Vegas, 5/17/07, by Arch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MORGELLON'S DISEASE...IS MOLD, 4/24/07, by standswfist.
>>>>>>>>> Re: MORGELLON'S DISEASE...IS MOLD, 5/07/07, by John Lloyd.
>>>>>>>>> Re: MORGELLON'S DISEASE...IS MOLD, 6/04/07, by cb thomas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Victim's of Toxic Mold, 4/22/07, by Darlene.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tort Tax..., 4/11/07, by Rem Dude.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rights violated? Need to get coverage?, 4/06/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Rights violated? Need to get coverage?, 4/11/07, by Mike B..
>>>>>>>>> Re: Rights violated? I apologize for pushing this site., 4/25/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Rights violated? I apologize for pushing this site., 4/25/07, by Holt
>>>>>>>>> Harrison.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Rights violated? I apologize for pushing this site., 4/25/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Tram aka Holt Harrison, 4/25/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Tram aka Holt Harrison, 4/25/07, by Holt "Tram" Harrison.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Tram aka Holt Harrison, 4/25/07, by M3.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Tram aka Holt Harrison, 4/26/07, by Deborah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CDC, OSHA Connection, 4/05/07, by Johncodie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Instant action form to send issues to Congress in real time!, 3/26/07, by s.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CONTACT CONGRESS, 3/25/07, by s.
>>>>>>>>> Re: CONTACT CONGRESS [home page], 3/25/07, by s.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "TWO FACES OF TOXIC MOLD", 3/23/07, by s.
>>>>>>>>> Re: "TWO FACES OF TOXIC MOLD", 3/23/07, by s.
>>>>>>>>> Re: site=response/papers=senate-congress Re: "TWO FACES OF TOXIC, 3/24/07, by
>>>>>>>>> s.
>>>>>>>>> Re: "TWO FACES OF TOXIC MOLD", 4/06/07, by luke Brennan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Killer in recalled pet food may be mold, FDA says, 3/22/07, by s.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mold Exposure Question, 3/03/07, by Kathy W..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MOLD-WALTER REED INVESTIGATION, 2/21/07, by s.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FEN-Neurotoxic/Valve Case, 2/20/07, by Scott.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> contact dermatitis due to hexavalent chromium, 2/15/07, by leslie kelly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ira Besserman I do know Dr. Lipsey, and Dr. Thrasher, 2/12/07, by CS.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Ira Besserman I do know Dr. Lipsey, and Dr. Thrasher, 2/12/07, by
>>>>>>>>> johncodie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boston Society for Advanced Therapeutics/ Angle, 1/26/07, by John Codie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Boston Society for Advanced Therapeutics/ Angle, 1/26/07, by Angel.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Boston Society for Advanced Therapeutics/ Angle, 1/27/07, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Boston Society for Advanced Therapeutics/ Angle, 1/27/07, by Irritated.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Boston Society for Advanced Therapeutics/ Angle, 1/28/07, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Public Relations Employee for SMExperts, 1/25/07, by johncodie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Canad Posits Mold Guidelines, 1/25/07, by MBobMean.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Canada Posits Mold Guidelines, 1/25/07, by MBobMean.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Canada Posits Mold Guidelines, 1/25/07, by Sharon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pres of ACOEM responds to WSJ Article, 1/24/07, by Sharon Kramer.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Pres of ACOEM responds to WSJ Article, 1/25/07, by MBobMean.
>>>>>>>>> Re: More Pres of ACOEM responds to WSJ Article, 1/25/07, by Sharon.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Pres of ACOEM responds to WSJ Article, 1/25/07, by Sharon.
>>>>>>>>> Re: Pres of ACOEM responds to WSJ Article, 1/29/07, by MBobMean.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/08, Sharon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> As posted by Mike B, that is inflammatory and false:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/08, Mike B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon is going to give Bruce Kelman a nice Valentine's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gift tomorrow - documents she's been withholding from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> production. I'll bet there are some treasures amongst them!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Re: Bruce Kelman versus Sharon Kramer - Update
>>>>>>>>>> Posted by Mike B. on 2/04/08
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really, Sharon, what's the problem with your discovery
>>>>>>>>>> responses? Are you withholding production of documents that
>>>>>>>>>> have been requested or subpoenaed? What kind of documents are
>>>>>>>>>> being sought by Kelman? Will those documents help him in his
>>>>>>>>>> suit against you?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And by the way, you should take your own advice and READ the entire appellate
>>>>>>>>>> ruling.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As appellant, Kramer has the burden of showing error. (See
>>>>>>>>>> Howard v. Thrifty Drug & Discount Stores (1995) 10 Cal.4th
>>>>>>>>>> 424, 443.) “The reviewing court is not required to make an
>>>>>>>>>> independent, unassisted study of the record in search of
>>>>>>>>>> error or grounds to support the judgment. It is entitled to
>>>>>>>>>> the assistance of counsel.” (9 Witkin, Cal. Procedure (4th
>>>>>>>>>> ed. 1997) Appeal, § 594, p. 627.) We may ignore points that
>>>>>>>>>> are not argued or supported by citations to authorities or
>>>>>>>>>> the record. ( Kim v. Sumitomo Bank (1993) 17 Cal.App.4th
>>>>>>>>>> 974, 979.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ......We decline to sift through the
>>>>>>>>>> record for her exhibits to see if any error might have
>>>>>>>>>> occurred.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/08, Sharon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike B,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's it. You are NOT correct with the false information you are publicly
>>>>>>>>>>> putting out about me, based on nothing but a document you found on the
>>>>>>>>>>> internet. And I NEVER post or monitor the ToxTort board. I monitor the
>>>>>>>>>>> Black Mold Board. Thank God, someone else does monitor this board and
>>>>>>>>>>> alerted me to the malicious lies you are writing about me....once again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am not withholding any documents that I am required to turn over. Kelman
>>>>>>>>>>> is not requesting any new documents from me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is malicious on your part. I have asked you to stop NUMEROUS times.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, you continue to put out false information, even after being told it is
>>>>>>>>>>> false.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I told you exactly what happened. I switched legal counsel and they were
>>>>>>>>>>> delayed in turning over documents beyond the date stipulated with the prior
>>>>>>>>>>> attorney.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You have chosen to continue to stalk me while remaining annonymous thru a
>>>>>>>>>>> pseudoname, yet publicly implying and outright stating that I am lying and
>>>>>>>>>>> hiding something, when I am not. Nor have I ever been accused of hiding
>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have had it with you. No more. That's it. I will be seeking legal
>>>>>>>>>>> council on Monday.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/08, Mike B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I guess we know who is right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How about this. I'll provide you with information on just one of the ways
>>>>>>>>>>>> to see it for yourself. Go to the San Diego Superior Court web page and
>>>>>>>>>>>> find the "civil cases" and then the "tentative rulings" link. Click on
>>>>>>>>>>>> that and you will be asked to provide a case number. Type in "GIN044539"
>>>>>>>>>>>> and you will see the latest ruling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/08, Deborah wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are just so sweet. If you have this info, why not just post it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> since you claim it is factual?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/08, Mike B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to my computer, this post is and always was included on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ToxBoard Chatboard where Sharon Kramer has posted regularly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not posted any "types of false, public writings" or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything "potentially and legally libelous."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few simple answers by you to a few simple questions might clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this up:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Did the court (San Diego Superior) presiding over your litigation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Kelman v. Kramer) issue an order (or "ruling") in November or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> December 2007 that required you to provide answers and documents to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the plaintiff (Kelman)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Did that same court award sanctions to the plaintiff in that same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order/ruling?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Did the same court grant your motion for reconsideration of it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November or December order/ruling?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Did the same court modify its November or December order/ruling to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow you to raise the attorney-client privilege as a response to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document and information requests?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) Did the same court uphold the remainder of its previous November
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or December order/ruling, including its previous award of sanctions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Did the same court, in its amended order/ruling of January 25,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008, deny your request for sanctions (somewhere over $5,000+)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7) Did the same court, in its amended order, require you to provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your responses/production of documents/objections to the plaintiff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within 20 days of the date of the amended order (1/25/2008)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/08, Sharon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike B,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a board I post on. You can look back at the history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and see that I have not been on this one for over a year. So stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feigning ignorance. And also stop writing wild accusations based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on something you know NOTHING about. I have not failed to turn over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or withheld any documents I am required to produce... as you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMAGINING in your own little mind. My attorneys were late in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turning them over, as I had switched attorney. I did not pay a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sanction. So stop trying to make some big mystery or implication
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I have ANYTHING to hide out of a few lines you read on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not kidding. ONE MORE of these types of false, public writings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by you and I WILL be finding out your identity. What you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing as you cower behind a pseudoname is potentially and legally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> libelous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/08, Mike B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You are wrong with your understanding that I am withholding ANY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents requested of me that I am required to turn over."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds like a typical plan to not produce documents because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you will claim some sort of privilege, like the attorney-client
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> privilege.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, they'll only motion the court to have those "privileged"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents reviewed "in camera" by the court. You'll spend a bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of money on attorney's fees for memoranda in opposition to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitting the documents in camera. You'll lose that argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll then have to produce the documents to the court, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly a special master, for their review and determination on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> privilege.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint - just because an attorney was copied with your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correspondence does not automatically make the document
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> privileged.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/08, Sharon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike B,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have reached new lows. I do not appreciate being discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a chat board that I do not even frequent and would not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known you were posting such garbage were it not specifically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brought to my attention.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are wrong with your understanding that I am withholding ANY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents requested of me that I am required to turn over. Nor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is Kelman requesting any such documents. WHAT IS YOUR REAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IDENTITY?????????? I have had enough of you making false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postings of things you know nothing about in relation to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> litigation with VeriTox.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/08, Deborah wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really think that any statement made by Sharon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding alteration of testimony, which the good doc did,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is as important as the fact that the papers promulgated by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these people caused harm by downplaying and denying mold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> induced illness from indoor environments?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An honest question, please keep any answers or comments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directed to the topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/08, Mike B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon is going to give Bruce Kelman a nice Valentine's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gift tomorrow - documents she's been withholding from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> production. I'll bet there are some treasures amongst them!
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