Re: HVAC Mold Inspections

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Hummm RD,

RD,
I tried to post a response but it didn't make it past web filter and I cannot figure
out what is tripping it. I must run now, but I'll try to send it piecemeal later.

>>
>> On 2/29/08, Rem Dude wrote:
>>> Deborah:
>>>
>>> You proved my entire point of this thread. A simple HVAC inspection would have
>>> caught the problem before said occupant moved in. Secondly, if the contamination
>>> occurred after move in, then an annual inspection would have caught the
>>> contamination. EITHER way, said occupant would not have been exposed to mold
>>> contamination for 2 years.
>>>
>>> Let said occupant serve as an example for everyone else - get your HVAC
>>> inspected for fungal contamination every cooling season.
>>>
>>> RD
>>>
>>> On 2/29/08, Deborah wrote:
>>>> Just when I thought there was a person there...sigh..
>>>>
>>>> I know you aren't a lawyer and the lease was standard. Property owner liable
>>> for
>>>> maintenance of immovable appliances.
>>>>
>>>> Occupant had no idea what was making said occupant ill. Occupant was ill
>>>> increasingly ill over a 2 year period. Occupant moved out immediately upon
>>>> discovering what the culprit was and moved to have it tested and identified.
>>>> Property owner tried to stop this unsuccessfully. Handyman sent by landlord to
>>>> "remediate" arrives with a brush and spray bottle and explains several other
>>>> unauthorized entries were made during prior year to "clean" coils and that both
>>>> handyman and property owner were aware of occupant's illness and cluelessness
>>>> about the condition of the HVAC system and the presence of mold within the
>>>> system. A retaliatory eviction was attempted to prevent collection of samples.
>>>> Samples were collected and identified.
>>>>
>>>> The analysis was necessary to determine what was causing symptoms and proper
>>>> approach to remediation before contents could be removed.
>>>>
>>>> You prove over and over that even with a superficial acknowledgment of the
>>>> facts, you are quick to reach a conclusion based on your own beliefs or values
>>>> rather than justice. This isn't academic, it was my life and represents what
>>> is
>>>> happening to people by the thousands daily.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/29/08, Rem Dude wrote:
>>>>> Deborah:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I am not a lawyer.
>>>>> 2. I do not have a copy of the lease to even be able to make an assumption.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is - If the occupant was sick and had proof it was from mold
>>>>> exposure and had proof that the HVAC system was contaminated and had proof
>>>>> that the landlord was not responding, then why oh why was the occupant still
>>>>> in the house???
>>>>>
>>>>> Hummmm...
>>>>>
>>>>> RD
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/29/08, Deborah wrote:
>>>>>> If the property owner had knowledge of the defect, concealed it, and failed
>>>>>> to inform, and knew occupant was sick with symptoms known to be caused by
>>>>>> the problem, do you feel the lease was breached?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/29/08, Rem Dude wrote:
>>>>>>> Deborah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not really. I look at enough of them every day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/29/08, Deborah wrote:
>>>>>>>> hmm, "if you don't like it, move" and "if it made you ill, you are a
>>>>>>>> whining, card-carrying member of the Victim Industry who is
>>>>>>>> genetically inferior, er, susecptible".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you like to see the pics and lab report on what was found on the
>>>>>>>> HVAC coils in my place?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/26/08, Rem Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Deborah:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mold contamination is certainly grounds for breaking a lease if the
>>>>>>>>> landlord is unresponsive to requests to correct the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RD
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/08, Deborah wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Don't have it in front of me, but standard rule is that immovables
>>>>>>>>>> are considered domain of property owner.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No matter, when I asked to have it done, inspection guy was
>>>>>>>>>> labeled fraud by landlord and I was told to leave despite offering
>>>>>>>>>> to assist in payment or pay for it all, this after verbal lease
>>>>>>>>>> renewal just a few weeks before.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When the water in hall was discovered just a couple of weeks or so
>>>>>>>>>> later, leading to HVAC closet and plugged condensation tube, I had
>>>>>>>>>> a good look at underneath of coils and intake plenum. Handyman
>>>>>>>>>> said he'd "cleaned" coils 3x during the prior year at landlord's
>>>>>>>>>> request...without my knowledge, of course. Handyman said he'd
>>>>>>>>>> told landlord coils needed to be replaced or removed for thorough
>>>>>>>>>> cleaning...landlord refused to do either. Again, I had no
>>>>>>>>>> knowledge of any of this. Water had been flowing under carpet
>>>>>>>>>> padding for some time. And, no, my sense of smell wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> functioning properly due to prior poisoning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When it is my responsibility to do more than regularly change
>>>>>>>>>> filter, depending on unit, clean 2 to 4 times per year. In my
>>>>>>>>>> camper, it was easy to do frequently. Window units, depending on
>>>>>>>>>> where they are located, if done regularly and kept clean, not so
>>>>>>>>>> bad. Central HVAC beyond my capabilities without assist.
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/08, Rem Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Depends. Read your leasing agreement...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> RD
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/08, Deborah wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me answer with a question; who is responsible for HVAC
>>>>>>>>>>>> evaluation, maintenance, and repair, landlord or tenant?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/08, Rem Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those who complain about IAQ related illnesses or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dangers of mold, how often do you have your HVAC system
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evaluated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/25/08, Rem Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In reviewing last year’s Residential HVAC system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspections that we conducted, 100&37; of them tested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive for internal duct board/insulation fungal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contamination and 100&37; of them tested positive for drip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan fungal contamination.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In reviewing last year’s Commercial HVAC system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspections that we conducted approximately 78&37; tested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive for internal fungal contamination.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RD