Re: TOXIC OZONE and Chemicals used to remove SMOKE odor dama

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On 5/16/12, mm wrote:
> On 5/16/12, mm wrote:
>> On 5/27/08, Sara wrote:
>>> Don't let them use OZONE or toxic petrol chemicals to
>>> remove smoke odor damage to your home. Your home will NEVER
>>> be the same. You need to strip out the odor damage to the
>>> studs if needed and replace with same. If you let them do
>>> the current standard protocol you will be left a sick house
>>> with toxic chemical residue that will never leave in your
>>> children's life time. Tests will not be able to detect
>>> these toxic products left after ozone use. The measurements
>>> are all wrong for testing anyway. Pesticides DO harm people
>>> yet they are listed as "safe" to use. Be smart and strong.
>>> It is cheaper for them to use chemicals and ozone but not
>>> for you only for them. It will cost you dearly over time.
>>> Your health will suffer even if you do not notice the
>>> effect.
>>>
>>> research high levels of OZONE. ozone indoor air quality,
>>> oxidizes everything in your home. ozone changes the surface
>>> chemistry of many materials in your home that then out gas.
>>
>> My home was completely made unlivable by the chemicals used
>> including the ozone. I found many others who were never able
>> to move back in due to the chemicals used. One man and his
>> family only allowed ozone to be used. His whole family got
>> very sick and were harmed. They could not go inside without
>> gas masks. google John Thill family and fire. Lives in Santa
>> Cruz county. He is a contractor. His lawyer and mine also was
>> Gary Rose in Los Gatos CA. I got very sick from the chemicals
>> used. My house had to be stripped to the studs but only after
>> a lenthy grouling legal battle. If you keep google.ing you
>> will find lots of info on the dangers of OZONE alone. Companys
>> are starting to stop using ozone because of the problems. I
>> had a restoration company tell me this. The owner got sick
>> from his own exposure to his own chemicals used in his
>> company. He stopped using ozone. plus he got so sick he almost
>> died. it ruins materials which are never the same. The smell
>> didn't ever leave many items. Some did but only after about 4
>> yrs. But some never. Even though my house is mostly all
>> stripped now. It still smells when it's hot and it happened in
>> Jan 07. My house is still not fixed because I didn't get
>> enough money to do so. If you don't get a lawyer right away it
>> goes from bad to worse very soon. The ins co strings you
>> along. They know there will come an end to your housing etc
>> and then you are between a rock and a hard place. They you are
>> willing to take less and get on with it. But you need a really
>> good lawyer who is willing to go the distance. It's very
>> expensive to go to court because you need expert witnesses and
>> they cost a fortune and they have deep pockets so it;s hard to
>> impossible to win. The contractor did worse than me and they
>> actually went to court. We settled after a long drawn out yr
>> and a half before we went to mediation. But we had a few
>> things on our side like the fact that my ins co actually made
>> the call to the company that ruined by home with over
>> treatment of chemicals. The ins co offered to pay for
>> expensive testing at the tune of $6300. They knew it would
>> actually help THEIR case and it did. They knew full well that
>> it would not show anything because the analytical methods used
>> by CHI aren't able to detect the small particles that the
>> ozone create. Toxic small particles. I can't think of their
>> names but I found two environmental scientists who had done
>> research with ozone in residential homes. It showed that it
>> leaves a toxic soup which is worse than the original chemicals
>> because it oxidizes all paint, plastic, glue, etc etc. Ruins
>> circuit boards alas you computer. So don't leave them in the
>> house with ozone. We lost everything from the ozone and
>> chemicals it would have cost the ins co less to have stripped
>> my house in the first place but they did not want to set a
>> precedent by admitting something had gone wrong and the
>> chemicals did not come out as stated. I would stand your
>> ground and not allow any chemicals or ozone. Ozone done
>> correctly and only used for 24 hrs might not be so bad, But
>> you have to dehumidify first for the ozone to work right.
>> They didn't do this and it took 3 weeks of ozone which did
>> nothing. After dehumidifying it got rid of the smoke smell
>> finally but never the chemicals. My house reeked 30 feet out
>> the doors or windows and I got chemically sensitized by
>> exposure to these.
>> Get every communication in writing. Start emailing everything.
>> look up and make sure what you are entitle to and start
>> requesting those things if you wait you will never get all
>> that is due you after you go to court. It all gets lumped
>> together. Even email back any verbal conversations with what
>> was said and by who...document every single conversation in
>> writing and send it to them via email If you don't get a
>> response...document that and write that to them. that you sen
>> this and didn't get a response. They are smart and screwed and
>> they know just what they are doing. they know how it will turn
>> out. You may want to get a personal adjuster who works for
>> you. I heard good things about using them. That they will get
>> you more for your money. I found others by being consistent
>> online researching. one of the ozone researchers was in NJ the
>> other one was in Sweden. The chemical injury network s very
>> helpful. The woman is brilliant. The 50 dollars is well worth
>> what she will share with you. Try to hire an environment
>> indoor air quality kind of CHI. My first lawyer hired a big
>> company that ended up working for Allstate and helping them.
>> because they were not indoor air quality kinda co. Good luck
>> and feel free to email me back
>
> MAKE sure that if you do use a co to ozone or whatever that you
> make the ins co actually make the call and actually do the
> hiring and get in writing that they will back up who they hire.
> if YOU hire them then you are responsible if they screw up not
> the ins co. Even if you only make the call. than it was you who
> choose the CO to use to. They get ya coming and going. Be smart
> and document everything. Are you owed gas money food money
> housing money etc etc. make sure you get that as you go.