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    Re: TOXIC OZONE and Chemicals used to remove SMOKE odor dama

    Posted by Terry on 2/20/13

    On 5/16/12, mm wrote:
    > On 5/16/12, mm wrote:
    >> On 5/27/08, Sara wrote:
    >>> Don't let them use OZONE or toxic petrol chemicals to
    >>> remove smoke odor damage to your home. Your home will NEVER
    >>> be the same. You need to strip out the odor damage to the
    >>> studs if needed and replace with same. If you let them do
    >>> the current standard protocol you will be left a sick house
    >>> with toxic chemical residue that will never leave in your
    >>> children's life time. Tests will not be able to detect
    >>> these toxic products left after ozone use. The measurements
    >>> are all wrong for testing anyway. Pesticides DO harm people
    >>> yet they are listed as "safe" to use. Be smart and strong.
    >>> It is cheaper for them to use chemicals and ozone but not
    >>> for you only for them. It will cost you dearly over time.
    >>> Your health will suffer even if you do not notice the
    >>> effect.
    >>> research high levels of OZONE. ozone indoor air quality,
    >>> oxidizes everything in your home. ozone changes the surface
    >>> chemistry of many materials in your home that then out gas.
    >> My home was completely made unlivable by the chemicals used
    >> including the ozone. I found many others who were never able
    >> to move back in due to the chemicals used. One man and his
    >> family only allowed ozone to be used. His whole family got
    >> very sick and were harmed. They could not go inside without
    >> gas masks. google John Thill family and fire. Lives in Santa
    >> Cruz county. He is a contractor. His lawyer and mine also was
    >> Gary Rose in Los Gatos CA. I got very sick from the chemicals
    >> used. My house had to be stripped to the studs but only after
    >> a lenthy grouling legal battle. If you keep you
    >> will find lots of info on the dangers of OZONE alone. Companys
    >> are starting to stop using ozone because of the problems. I
    >> had a restoration company tell me this. The owner got sick
    >> from his own exposure to his own chemicals used in his
    >> company. He stopped using ozone. plus he got so sick he almost
    >> died. it ruins materials which are never the same. The smell
    >> didn't ever leave many items. Some did but only after about 4
    >> yrs. But some never. Even though my house is mostly all
    >> stripped now. It still smells when it's hot and it happened in
    >> Jan 07. My house is still not fixed because I didn't get
    >> enough money to do so. If you don't get a lawyer right away it
    >> goes from bad to worse very soon. The ins co strings you
    >> along. They know there will come an end to your housing etc
    >> and then you are between a rock and a hard place. They you are
    >> willing to take less and get on with it. But you need a really
    >> good lawyer who is willing to go the distance. It's very
    >> expensive to go to court because you need expert witnesses and
    >> they cost a fortune and they have deep pockets so it;s hard to
    >> impossible to win. The contractor did worse than me and they
    >> actually went to court. We settled after a long drawn out yr
    >> and a half before we went to mediation. But we had a few
    >> things on our side like the fact that my ins co actually made
    >> the call to the company that ruined by home with over
    >> treatment of chemicals. The ins co offered to pay for
    >> expensive testing at the tune of $6300. They knew it would
    >> actually help THEIR case and it did. They knew full well that
    >> it would not show anything because the analytical methods used
    >> by CHI aren't able to detect the small particles that the
    >> ozone create. Toxic small particles. I can't think of their
    >> names but I found two environmental scientists who had done
    >> research with ozone in residential homes. It showed that it
    >> leaves a toxic soup which is worse than the original chemicals
    >> because it oxidizes all paint, plastic, glue, etc etc. Ruins
    >> circuit boards alas you computer. So don't leave them in the
    >> house with ozone. We lost everything from the ozone and
    >> chemicals it would have cost the ins co less to have stripped
    >> my house in the first place but they did not want to set a
    >> precedent by admitting something had gone wrong and the
    >> chemicals did not come out as stated. I would stand your
    >> ground and not allow any chemicals or ozone. Ozone done
    >> correctly and only used for 24 hrs might not be so bad, But
    >> you have to dehumidify first for the ozone to work right.
    >> They didn't do this and it took 3 weeks of ozone which did
    >> nothing. After dehumidifying it got rid of the smoke smell
    >> finally but never the chemicals. My house reeked 30 feet out
    >> the doors or windows and I got chemically sensitized by
    >> exposure to these.
    >> Get every communication in writing. Start emailing everything.
    >> look up and make sure what you are entitle to and start
    >> requesting those things if you wait you will never get all
    >> that is due you after you go to court. It all gets lumped
    >> together. Even email back any verbal conversations with what
    >> was said and by who...document every single conversation in
    >> writing and send it to them via email If you don't get a
    >> response...document that and write that to them. that you sen
    >> this and didn't get a response. They are smart and screwed and
    >> they know just what they are doing. they know how it will turn
    >> out. You may want to get a personal adjuster who works for
    >> you. I heard good things about using them. That they will get
    >> you more for your money. I found others by being consistent
    >> online researching. one of the ozone researchers was in NJ the
    >> other one was in Sweden. The chemical injury network s very
    >> helpful. The woman is brilliant. The 50 dollars is well worth
    >> what she will share with you. Try to hire an environment
    >> indoor air quality kind of CHI. My first lawyer hired a big
    >> company that ended up working for Allstate and helping them.
    >> because they were not indoor air quality kinda co. Good luck
    >> and feel free to email me back
    > MAKE sure that if you do use a co to ozone or whatever that you
    > make the ins co actually make the call and actually do the
    > hiring and get in writing that they will back up who they hire.
    > if YOU hire them then you are responsible if they screw up not
    > the ins co. Even if you only make the call. than it was you who
    > choose the CO to use to. They get ya coming and going. Be smart
    > and document everything. Are you owed gas money food money
    > housing money etc etc. make sure you get that as you go.

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